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    Add if new to Pending recordings

    Hi. is there anyway to add if a pending recording is new (never aired) to the pending recording screen on the traditional desktop view? Maybe between the date and time of the recording and the channel name?
    Last edited by p37307; 2016-12-22 at 08:53 AM. Reason: voice typing used the wrong "there"
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    ok, quite awhile back during pre-release testing for npvr 3.5.x I came up with an idea that would cover this. It didn't get any traction... I brought it up again during 3.6.x and 3.7.x testing again, but still no dice. No one really said it was bad, but sub didn't seem keen on it and there wasn't enough excitement from others to overcome sub's non-keenness. So I will resurrect this idea one more time, copied verbatim from my original post, and see if anyone gets all hot and bothered about it:
    Add an option to switch the colored dots from user control to program control, with the following functions:
    ..Red - in-progress recording, in lieu of the "Recording" text
    ..Yellow - text present in "failure reason" field (which may not actually be a failure, but always indicates some sort of exception to the norm)
    ..Green - new episode
    ..Blue - single recording
    (Blue and Green could be reversed, since the TV Guide tags new shows with a little blue tag so it'd be consistent)
    Now, I always think changes I propose will be easy, because sub's the one who has to make them. But.... right now the program displays the colored dots based on literal flags in the database. Really the new feature I want just changes which things are the flags. Red if status=1. Yellow if failure_reason!=NUL. Green if first_run='Y'. Blue if recurrence_oid=0 (yes, all 4 flags could be active at once). The actual red/yellow/green/blue flag fields would be ignored.

    Also, let's have a show of hands - how many of you knew there was a "colored dots" feature in NextPVR? How many actually use it? In any case, I'm not saying to eliminate the manually controlled dots feature, for those who do actually use them, just add an option to display the dots based on these other flags instead.
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    +1

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    Dots? I don't think I've ever seen them.
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    I know BrettB uses the dots. I personally don't like johnsonx42's idea because these concepts are more suited to skining, duplicating information from existing database fields goes against normal normalization rules. On the pending recording screens the colours overlap with the Pending text and I don't want to lose that. I still get lost scrolling in the recordings menu and I like seeing Pending.

    Maybe I am a Grinch but I don't support the OP's idea either Personally I primarily record Only New so most of my shows will be marked New even AFTER I watch them and it doesn't show the "newest" new which could lead to confusion and reduced WAF. I much prefer that we get recordings in reverse S##E## order on the traditional screens

    That being said running a sqlite script to do update dots except in-progress in post update epg is trivial. FWIW I guess even in-progress could be done in parallel/post processing.

    ie
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    sqlite3.exe  c:\Users\Public\NPVR\npvr.db3 "update scheduled_recording set blue='Y'  where event_details like '%%<FirstRun>true</FirstRun>%%';"
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsonx42 View Post
    Also, let's have a show of hands - how many of you knew there was a "colored dots" feature in NextPVR? How many actually use it? In any case, I'm not saying to eliminate the manually controlled dots feature, for those who do actually use them, just add an option to display the dots based on these other flags instead.
    Yes, we use the colored dots ALL THE TIME to keep track of which recordings each of us has watched. This feature is extremely critical for our usage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallevand View Post
    That being said running a sqlite script to do update dots except in-progress in post update epg is trivial. FWIW I guess even in-progress could be done in parallel/post processing.

    ie
    Code:
    sqlite3.exe  c:\Users\Public\NPVR\npvr.db3 "update scheduled_recording set blue='Y'  where event_details like '%%<FirstRun>true</FirstRun>%%';"
    Martin
    Great solution for people that would like this functionality, Martin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettB View Post
    Great solution for people that would like this functionality, Martin.
    Thanks to me it makes more sense to add " and status = 0" so at least it can be toggled off but that is not what is being asked for.

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    I don't use NPVR for viewing my recordings so the dots, although I know they are there, doesn't help me any.

    I have a dlna setup and pull directly from that from whatever TV, tablet, etc I am watching from. For me it is easier.

    I was hoping it would be a skinning issue or better, if easier, a sort category "New".

    I am working my way to where all my recordings will be new and then maybe it won't matter much for me. I have series that I am recording and luckily many are on two times a day so it doesn't take long to get an entire series recorded. Some are not.

    I think a lot of people use NPVR differently and there is no "most" users. That is the impression I get reading these forums everyday, nearly every post. Some use it as a dvr to record what they want to watch and might miss due to their schedule, and then delete. Others to archive and make a video "jukebox" (like me) and others use it as a complete cable box/dvr replacement utilizing the guide in real time, recording and watching tv.

    I use my video jukebox many times through my internet connection from away from home and find the tablet DLNA easier to use then NPVR simply because I have a barebones tablet. I have the channels I might view live TV setup on in my DLNA as a internet channel using the URL and channel number and use VLC directly from my tablet to reach my DLNA, both recording and live TV.

    I would like to look at my pending recordings and see what is new so I can quickly make snap determinations if I need to cancel a recording if I need an open tuner to watch live tv if I am away from home.

    Due to my health, today I maybe watching my recordings or live tv at home, tomorrow, at a hospital or therapy center. It changes all the time. Keep in mind, I have Parkinson's Plus which makes the NPVR client, both web and tablet, difficult for me and my DLNA easier. It takes 5 minutes to even get through setting up a recording.

    Even with the dots, if they appear on pending recordings, I would have to scroll down each pending recording for the estimated time frame I am away to look for conflicts or make machine capability determinations.

    This is a feature so important for me that I am willing to up my monthly donation.
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    Paul with your use case I would consider an HDHR extend and reserve one tuner for remote DLNA viewing with hw transcoding for your live TV. As a bonus you get an extra tuner for nextPVR

    Martin

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