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UHD skins

UHD skins
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2016-10-15, 01:55 PM
Daft question perhaps - but are there any ultra-high definition skins for NPVR? The standard UI looks a bit soft when upscaled on a UHD TV...
- Silent client PVR: HDPlex HS.1 aluminium fanless case / Thin-ITX ASRock H81TM-ITX motherboard / Intel Celeron 1850T CPU / 4GB RAM / 120GB SSD / TBS6982 DBS-S2 [SIZE=1]dual-tuner card / Win10+nPVR+Plex Media Player feeding LG OLED55B6V + Anthem MRX510 AV Receiver / PMC GB1 / B&W / REL speakers.
- Noisy NAS: Xeon / Intel mobo / 16GB RAM / FreeNAS + Ubuntu VMs on VMware ESXi + 12TB RAID
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2016-10-15, 05:04 PM
This patch wont make any difference, but it'll log the internal renderer size so we can see what it's detecting.

Can you run up the app with this patch installed, and zip and attach the npvr.log, and a couple of fullsize screenshots showing what you get?
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2016-10-15, 05:50 PM
NextPVR looks fine on my (almost) 4k laptop, but granted that's just a 13” screen. It is rendering at 4k though, and most graphics and fonts are very sharp - it's just some of the images that look a tad soft, as you'd expect really.

If you have desktop scaling set to (eg) 200% so everything else remains readable, you might want to tweak the properties for nextpvr.exe and disable display scaling (under the compatibility tab).

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2016-10-16, 04:59 PM
[ATTACH=CONFIG]43049[/ATTACH]

Thanks sub - here are the logs.
- Silent client PVR: HDPlex HS.1 aluminium fanless case / Thin-ITX ASRock H81TM-ITX motherboard / Intel Celeron 1850T CPU / 4GB RAM / 120GB SSD / TBS6982 DBS-S2 [SIZE=1]dual-tuner card / Win10+nPVR+Plex Media Player feeding LG OLED55B6V + Anthem MRX510 AV Receiver / PMC GB1 / B&W / REL speakers.
- Noisy NAS: Xeon / Intel mobo / 16GB RAM / FreeNAS + Ubuntu VMs on VMware ESXi + 12TB RAID
[/SIZE] running Plex Media Server

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2016-10-16, 05:13 PM
Your skin is being rendered for 1280x720.

Quote:2016-10-16 17:53:15.986 [DEBUG][1] Rendering for screen size: 1280x720

On the Settings->General screen, what do you have selected for the UI Resolution? You should have 'Auto' set.
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2016-10-16, 05:20 PM
It was on auto - I've now selected the highest resolution possible (1920 x 1080 - ie 1080p) and it does look crisper. The issue is slightly complicated because the video signal is passed through my AV receiver to the UHD TV. Then either the receiver or the TV upscales to UHD. But this does look better. Many thanks.

Do I risk filling my OS disk with logs if I leave the NUtility.dll I've installed?
- Silent client PVR: HDPlex HS.1 aluminium fanless case / Thin-ITX ASRock H81TM-ITX motherboard / Intel Celeron 1850T CPU / 4GB RAM / 120GB SSD / TBS6982 DBS-S2 [SIZE=1]dual-tuner card / Win10+nPVR+Plex Media Player feeding LG OLED55B6V + Anthem MRX510 AV Receiver / PMC GB1 / B&W / REL speakers.
- Noisy NAS: Xeon / Intel mobo / 16GB RAM / FreeNAS + Ubuntu VMs on VMware ESXi + 12TB RAID
[/SIZE] running Plex Media Server

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2016-10-16, 05:35 PM
liteswap Wrote:It was on auto - I've now selected the highest resolution possible (1920 x 1080 - ie 1080p) and it does look crisper. The issue is slightly complicated because the video signal is passed through my AV receiver to the UHD TV. Then either the receiver or the TV upscales to UHD. But this does look better. Many thanks.
Ah ok. The best you're going to get is whatever resolution your PC is connecting to your receiver with. ie, if your PC was connecting to your AV receiver at 1280x720 (which the logs indicates), then that the most pixels of detail NextPVR could put on the screen. Any upscaling is never going to increase the amount of detail beyond that. If your PC was connecting to your receiver at UHD resolution (3840x2160), then NextPVR would generate screens for 3840x2160.

When generating screens at 3840x2160, NextPVR's text would be sharp at that resolution, but you might need to change the background image to get the full UHD experience.

Quote:Do I risk filling my OS disk with logs if I leave the NUtility.dll I've installed?
No - it only added one line to your logs.
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2016-10-16, 05:41 PM
Thanks. Not sure I understand why the PC was connecting to the receiver at such a low resolution but I've now been through all the graphics settings and ensured that it connects at 1080p, and that's what is now being reported by the receiver.

I don't seem to be able to force it higher, even though the on-chip graphics subsystem has a nominal max res of 2500 x 1600 - still below UHD but more pixels to being generated to start with would be a better...
- Silent client PVR: HDPlex HS.1 aluminium fanless case / Thin-ITX ASRock H81TM-ITX motherboard / Intel Celeron 1850T CPU / 4GB RAM / 120GB SSD / TBS6982 DBS-S2 [SIZE=1]dual-tuner card / Win10+nPVR+Plex Media Player feeding LG OLED55B6V + Anthem MRX510 AV Receiver / PMC GB1 / B&W / REL speakers.
- Noisy NAS: Xeon / Intel mobo / 16GB RAM / FreeNAS + Ubuntu VMs on VMware ESXi + 12TB RAID
[/SIZE] running Plex Media Server

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2016-10-16, 06:08 PM
liteswap Wrote:I don't seem to be able to force it higher, even though the on-chip graphics subsystem has a nominal max res of 2500 x 1600 - still below UHD but more pixels to being generated to start with would be a better...
Usually A/V receivers and TVs will only accept standard video resolutions, like 720p/1080p/UHD etc, not other nonstandard PC style resolutions.
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2016-10-16, 08:16 PM
I guess that's it...
- Silent client PVR: HDPlex HS.1 aluminium fanless case / Thin-ITX ASRock H81TM-ITX motherboard / Intel Celeron 1850T CPU / 4GB RAM / 120GB SSD / TBS6982 DBS-S2 [SIZE=1]dual-tuner card / Win10+nPVR+Plex Media Player feeding LG OLED55B6V + Anthem MRX510 AV Receiver / PMC GB1 / B&W / REL speakers.
- Noisy NAS: Xeon / Intel mobo / 16GB RAM / FreeNAS + Ubuntu VMs on VMware ESXi + 12TB RAID
[/SIZE] running Plex Media Server

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