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Cannot skip after a few minutes on a digi rec'ing, channel group bug, filetypes, ?'s

Cannot skip after a few minutes on a digi rec'ing, channel group bug, filetypes, ?'s
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2012-01-25, 01:33 AM
Hello,

I just made the switch to NPVR from GBPVR and have a few questions.

1) Is it normal for my SD recordings from a Haup PVR150 svideo input to be recorded as .ts file instead of .mpg like it was with GBPVR?

2) I have 2 channel groups i added; "favorites" and "subscribed". The channel group reverts back to all channels after watching something. Is there a way to make the group stay till i tell it to change?

3) Previously with GBPVR, if a recording was scheduled and only one tuner had that channel available, it would kick the user out of live tv to record it. Noticed on Sunday that we had something scheduled and it never kicked us out. Only until I exited Live TV did I see the recording start (I can see the IR blaster tell the Sat box to change channels). Is this behavior be changed to make the recording the priority over Live TV?

4) When trying to watch a show recorded using my HDHR (using NPVR), I can skip forward/back during the first few minutes of the recording. Anywhere past that, if I try to skip forward, the screen goes black (or images freezes) and I notice the HDD activity go up dramatically. Eventually it kicks back to the recordings menu after about a minute. I have been able to watch the recordings for a good 30 minutes if I don't try to skip forward so it seems the data is there but maybe it's a timeline issue?. Previous recordings made using GBPVR from the HDHR work fine so I don't believe this is a decoder issue. I don't have any problem with skipping forward/backward on the recordings from the PVR150.

One of the shows in question was "Alcatraz" recorded last night. I recorded it both from the PVR150 (the recording that started on 2012-01-23 19:54:00) and the HDHR (the recording that started on 2012-01-23 19:56:00) just in case the HDHR version was messed up like mentioned above (and it is). I tried watching it today at 17:37 after rebooting the PVR.

Thanks.
MY PVR:
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
Hardware: Silverstone LC13-E, Athlon II 250, Asrock 785GMH, 2GB Corsair RAM, 250GB WD HDD, 1TB WD Black, Hauppauge PVR-150 MCE tuner (s-video to Dish STB), HDHomeRun (ATSC x2), MCE2004 for Rx, USB-UIRT for Tx, Sony VL600 Remote, 36" Sony Wega HD CRT on DVI to embedded ATI HD4200.
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#2
2012-01-25, 01:47 AM
Torque Wrote:Hello,

I just made the switch to NPVR from GBPVR and have a few questions.

1) Is it normal for my SD recordings from a Haup PVR150 svideo input to be recorded as .ts file instead of .mpg like it was with GBPVR?
Yes, this is normal. It always records .ts files. This is the native format used by the digital tv. I make analog do ts too, so that I dont have write two different live tv engines (one based on .ts for digital, the other based on .mpg for analog), as well as only having to write one set of components for playing in-progress recordings etc. This makes life much simpler for me.

Quote:2) I have 2 channel groups i added; "favorites" and "subscribed". The channel group reverts back to all channels after watching something. Is there a way to make the group stay till i tell it to change?
See the patch here: http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...arted-info

Quote:3) Previously with GBPVR, if a recording was scheduled and only one tuner had that channel available, it would kick the user out of live tv to record it. Noticed on Sunday that we had something scheduled and it never kicked us out. Only until I exited Live TV did I see the recording start (I can see the IR blaster tell the Sat box to change channels). Is this behavior be changed to make the recording the priority over Live TV?
Its supposed to kick you out of live tv. Reproduce the problem and post the logs and I'll take a look.
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2012-01-25, 03:20 AM (This post was last modified: 2012-01-25, 03:27 AM by Tower.)
Torque Wrote:4) When trying to watch a show recorded using my HDHR (using NPVR), I can skip forward/back during the first few minutes of the recording. Anywhere past that, if I try to skip forward, the screen goes black (or images freezes) and I notice the HDD activity go up dramatically. Eventually it kicks back to the recordings menu after about a minute. I have been able to watch the recordings for a good 30 minutes if I don't try to skip forward so it seems the data is there but maybe it's a timeline issue?. Previous recordings made using GBPVR from the HDHR work fine so I don't believe this is a decoder issue. I don't have any problem with skipping forward/backward on the recordings from the PVR150.

One of the shows in question was "Alcatraz" recorded last night. I recorded it both from the PVR150 (the recording that started on 2012-01-23 19:54:00) and the HDHR (the recording that started on 2012-01-23 19:56:00) just in case the HDHR version was messed up like mentioned above (and it is). I tried watching it today at 17:37 after rebooting the PVR.

Thanks.

I've had the same issue recently on a lot of recordings from my HDHR as well. Here is what else I have found.
1) Switching decoders doesn't help (MS, Cyberlink, ffdshow...)
2) The same problem is exhibited playing the .ts file in Windows Media Player
3) Everything is fine if I play it with VLC
4) This has happened on recording with the previous version of NPVR (2.2.6) as well as the 2012 Jan 18th version (2.3.6)

My PVR500 seems to have crapped out lately, so I don't have any recent functional SD recordings. A 2250 should be arriving tomorrow, though.
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2012-01-25, 04:03 AM
sub Wrote:Yes, this is normal. It always records .ts files. This is the native format used by the digital tv. I make analog do ts too, so that I dont have write two different live tv engines (one based on .ts for digital, the other based on .mpg for analog), as well as only having to write one set of components for playing in-progress recordings etc. This makes life much simpler for me.

See the patch here: http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...arted-info

Its supposed to kick you out of live tv. Reproduce the problem and post the logs and I'll take a look.

Thanks sub. The patch fixed the channel group issue after also adding the line to the config file. It is kicking us out of recordings... I think I must have looked at my wife's "fast clock" when I thought it wasn't doing it... since it kicked us out of Live TV twice tonite to record some shows. Cheers!

Tower Wrote:I've had the same issue recently on a lot of recordings from my HDHR as well. Here is what else I have found.
1) Switching decoders doesn't help (MS, Cyberlink, ffdshow...)
2) The same problem is exhibited playing the .ts file in Windows Media Player
3) Everything is fine if I play it with VLC
4) This has happened on recording with the previous version of NPVR (2.2.6) as well as the 2012 Jan 18th version (2.3.6)

My PVR500 seems to have crapped out lately, so I don't have any recent functional SD recordings. A 2250 should be arriving tomorrow, though.

Glad I'm not alone, I have the same exact behavior as your first 3 points. I just moved from GBPVR 1.4.7 to NPVR 2.3.6 on my main PVR (connected to the TV). I have another PC I was using to test out the previous version of NPVR for a few months and was able to record mostly fine (never used it to watch anything for any length of time tho) from the HDHR. Occasionally, I'd find that the recordings, when played on the main PVR in GBPVR, would have what I would call a timeline issue where each video second was about 60 real seconds. The video length in the timeline would indicate it was like 342 hours long or something ridiculous. So skipping forward or backward was nearly impossible without hitting the number 9 on the remote (like skipping 9 minutes in a good recording) everytime I'd press the skip button and even then it'd only skip forward or back maybe 10 seconds.
MY PVR:
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
Hardware: Silverstone LC13-E, Athlon II 250, Asrock 785GMH, 2GB Corsair RAM, 250GB WD HDD, 1TB WD Black, Hauppauge PVR-150 MCE tuner (s-video to Dish STB), HDHomeRun (ATSC x2), MCE2004 for Rx, USB-UIRT for Tx, Sony VL600 Remote, 36" Sony Wega HD CRT on DVI to embedded ATI HD4200.
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2012-01-26, 04:45 AM
i was getting this also...only occasionally on my hdpvr..usually during livetv.
Hardware: HDHR Prime, HDPVR 1212, Raspberry pi2, VFD display w/LCDSmartie
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2012-01-31, 06:02 PM
Any idea on what you did to fix it? Every recording from my HDHR is like this... can only skip during the first 2-3 minutes. All the recordings play fine to the end if we just let them play.
MY PVR:
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
Hardware: Silverstone LC13-E, Athlon II 250, Asrock 785GMH, 2GB Corsair RAM, 250GB WD HDD, 1TB WD Black, Hauppauge PVR-150 MCE tuner (s-video to Dish STB), HDHomeRun (ATSC x2), MCE2004 for Rx, USB-UIRT for Tx, Sony VL600 Remote, 36" Sony Wega HD CRT on DVI to embedded ATI HD4200.
TV Service: Dish Network and Antenna Pics 'n Details
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