UK OTA EPG New Programmes

[ShadowMask]

Most new shows air at a specific time, and using the "Record Season (Weekly, this timeslot)" will cause it to only grab the new ones.

That would be good, I'm using kodi on LE, so I only get:
Recordng (Manual)
Recordng (Guide)
Recordng (Keyword)
Recordng (Advanced)

The only one I can see that sets a start and end time is Recordng (Manual) so is that the equivalent in Kodi? If I set a larger range than the programme, so programme is an hour long and starts at 9.00, I set the range for 9.00 - 11.00 to compensate for live bradcast overuns etc. If the programme was delayed and started at 10.30 I'm assuming that it would only record to 11.00 and I would only get the first half.

The reason I ask is that a lot of repeats happen after 11.00 at night, so you don't want to pick them up, but you do still want to record the show if it's delayed.

Is it possible to have a range for start time only and then a duration for the recording length rather than an end time, or is that not possible in nxtpvr itself or within kodi?

Thanks

[mvallevand]

It should be recording guide, just not set to new only. The timeslots is the time but you can confirm in the web interface.

NextPVR will still manage duplicates so it will only record episodes you don't have but it will record reruns if NextPVR didn't record them.

Martin

[sub]

I'm not sure what options are offered in Kodi, and whether any are the equivalent.

In nextpvr.exe (or UI clients), when you hit Record in the guide, it gives you multiple recording options. "Record Season (Weekly, this timeslot)" is one of those. It'll find any show with that name, that starts +/- 90 minutes of that original show.

In the web app, form the TV Guide, hit Advanced on a show, and you'll get the same options.

[ShadowMask]

It should be recording guide, just not set to new only. The timeslots is the time but you can confirm in the web interface.

That is what I have been using, but it doesn't matter if I set it to "New" or "All", I'm assuming as everything in the guide is marked as "New" it records everything, and if everything in the guide wasn't marked as "New" then "New" wouldn't record anything and "All" would still do the same thing?

In nextpvr.exe (or UI clients), when you hit Record in the guide, it gives you multiple recording options. "Record Season (Weekly, this timeslot)" is one of those. It'll find any show with that name, that starts +/- 90 minutes of that original show.

That sounds like exactly what I would want, I will test with setting various kodi timers up and see how they then look in the web UI. So does the nextpvr client in kodi have no control of what options to do or how to save the options kodi sends to it for a timer? Is there no way to save one of these kodi timers to nextpvr scheduler to do what nextpvr would do as a default within its own gui?

I noticed that different PVRs offer different options in this respect, I have definately seen Recording (Series) or Recording (Series LInk) as an option in one of them as well as Recording (Guide), though that may have been just a different version of Kodi I was using at the time...

Thanks

[mvallevand]

Right the new won't matter but Kodi still should create what is known to as a timeslot recording if you look at it in NextPVR.

[ShadowMask]

Right the new won't matter but Kodi still should create what is known to as a timeslot recording if you look at it in NextPVR.

Ok,
I'll experiment and see what timers set what options in nextpvr.

Also, regarding the timers being setup by nextpvr client, the latest kodi source code (PVRTimerType.cpp) has this definition:

Code:

// epg-based reminder rule
  allTypes.emplace_back(std::make_shared<CPVRTimerType>(++iTypeId,
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_IS_REPEATING |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_IS_REMINDER |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_ENABLE_DISABLE |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_TITLE_EPG_MATCH |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_FULLTEXT_EPG_MATCH |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_CHANNELS |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_ANY_CHANNEL |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_START_TIME |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_START_ANYTIME |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_END_TIME |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_END_ANYTIME |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_FIRST_DAY |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_WEEKDAYS |
                                                        PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_START_END_MARGIN));

I'm thinking with things like  PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_START_END_MARGIN that setting up the Guide based timer to do exactly the same as nextpvr GUI should be an option? though I'm not 100% sure that flag would allow what it implies.

I also noted that when using TVH, if I clicked on a timer in the list to view the details then I could enable/disable it, but I can't do this with nextpvr. Is that what the   PVR_TIMER_TYPE_SUPPORTS_ENABLE_DISABLE allows or is that due to something else? With nextpvr for some reason the Enabled button is greyed out if you view the Timer details? I can disable the timer from the context menu using nextpvr, but that is more awkward than just clicking on it with the remote I use.

Thanks

[mvallevand]

I am not home to test but recurring timers should be able to disabled an enabled in Kodi but not single program timers which are one-off anyways and get erased.

The margin is padding.

As I posted, try it don't worry about the code it comes down to how the parameters created from generic settings are interpreted.  There is a timeslot API that sub didn't add to Kodi I expect it works similarly with the advantage it is easier to modify types

[ShadowMask]

In nextpvr.exe (or UI clients), when you hit Record in the guide, it gives you multiple recording options. "Record Season (Weekly, this timeslot)" is one of those. It'll find any show with that name, that starts +/- 90 minutes of that original show.

Ok,
So I tried the 4 different timers I can set in kodi. The only one that sets a "series recording" in nextpvr is Recording: Repeating (Guide) that sets up as Record Series (All Episodes) or record Series (New Episodes) in nextpvr. I'm assuming this just records anything anytime as that is the result I am getting. Is there anyway to get this to setup as Record Series (Weekly, this timeslot) from within kodi, maybe as an option in the nextpvr client?

I know I could change it in nextpvr, but I would have to remember to do that whenever anyone adds a timer from the kodi front end.

Thanks

*EDIT* Actually thinking about this, Record Series (Daily, this timeslot) is probably a better option as a lot of modern series on UK TV are broadcast daily rather than weekly, or 2 days a week etc.

I have changed them all within nextpvr now o either Record Series (Daily, this timeslot) and will see how many repeats this still picks up. I think for a weekly show it is someties repeated an hour later the day before on the following week, so it will be interesting to see how this works out...

[sub]

I have changed them all within nextpvr now o either Record Series (Daily, this timeslot) and will see how many repeats this still picks up. I think for a weekly show it is someties repeated an hour later the day before on the following week, so it will be interesting to see how this works out...

Another factor to be aware of - if this is a show with season/episode numbers (or crid identfiers), then it should automatically avoid re-recording it the following week (assuming you haven't unticked 'avoid duplicate recordings where possible' on Settings->General).

[jcjefferies]

Will using "Avoid Duplicate Recordings" setting do what you want? I have been using  NextPVR client on LibreElec for about 10 years. I am not interested in just "New" items but ones of interest that I have not seen "recently" so I have it set to time out to 730 days! Each item in the EPG is given a unique id such as below from the Freeview EPG! :-

The Yorkshire Vet-S014E005-
Bangers & Cash/QQK625
Great British Railway Journeys/QQK7FA
M*A*S*H-S008E018-
Outback Opal Hunters-S005E013-
Escape To The Country-S015E014-
Foyle's War/5691129

NextPVR wont record that item again if the Unique ID is found in existing "Recordings" or "Recently Deleted" in the database!

Chris