MVP Successor?

[Satori]

I have been following the discussion for the HW link you posted above. Is it sounding like an MVP successor?

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/viewto...c&start=15


EDIT:Ignore this, Saw the other thread

[mvallevand]

The biggest difficulties with the Syabas NMT or for any new media extender for that mattte,r that I can see for GBPVR users as an MVP successor is they will take a lot of sub's involvement to take advantage of all the supported file formats and HD capabilities. That will be be pretty easy for some formats (he could try with FLAC anytime!), although even the fact that the NMT apparently downconverts from HD to SD might be plus for some users mpeg files today.

The next challenge is sub would likely need to redo his parser and for some of the new containers and formats this might not be so easy.

The other GBPVR challenge would be to send the large screen buffers for the menus and everything since to really take advantage of HD you'd want to see
1280 x 720 menus.

This takes a lot of work, likely more work for sub then me, so I figure it will be quite a while (IF I have a working project) before there is sufficient demand for sub to even consider it.

The final issue for the NTM devices is the lack of support of DVR-MS which might prevent some users from viewing their recorded content.

(I will prefer to keep my comments on this this thread until I do something that makes the NMT more mvpmc-like.)

Martin

[sub]

Having menus larger than the current menus wouldnt be much of a hassle. You can currently specify the MVP client screen size in the config.xml. At the moment it checks that you havnt specified a size larger than the MVP can handle, but it would be easy to remove that check.

If you make some progress getting a client up and going, then I'm happy to make the changes that are required to support some of the other native media types it supports. I imagine you'd be able take it at least as far as the current mvpmc without me needing to do much. You should be able to get as far menus, navigating, MPEG2 playback etc.

[SFX Group]

Heres an interesting bit from that hardware (and something sub might want to look into, like a pull down menu (MVP or NMT)

"The NMT supports the industry standard UPnP AV discovery protocol, giving users access to the wide range of media servers that are compliant with the DLNA specification."

Now i dont know anything about the UPnP AV discovery protocol, but at least it complies to something and i bet way more flexible than the MVP would be, as this has a HTTP browser then it will handle IP addresses WAY better than the MVP ask an hope method with certain other stuff NEEDED to be uploaded like the boot strap.

I like the looks of this, esp. as it seems they want it to be integrated to something, with newer hardware, hard drive, SPIF out etc...

Just my input.

[sub]

Now i dont know anything about the UPnP AV discovery protocol, but at least it complies to something and i bet way more flexible than the MVP would be,

It's more standard than what the MVP does for streaming media, but it is less flexible in general. ie, with the Hauppauge protocol I was able to replace the user interface etc, where as UPnP AV and it's discovery functionality is only really useful for streaming media files (ie, think "glorified network file player, with hard coded vendor supplied user interface").

[mvallevand]

Now i dont know anything about the UPnP AV discovery protocol, but at least it complies to something and i bet way more flexible than the MVP would be, as this has a HTTP browser then it will handle IP addresses WAY better than the MVP ask an hope method with certain other stuff NEEDED to be uploaded like the boot strap.

If you can't load or stream with the MVP it is unlikely that a UPnP media extender will work well either and certainly HD will be nearly impossible.

Martin

[SFX Group]

Ive been reading about the NMT, it looks good but doesnt look like it has the MENU flexibility a the MVP, where as the MVP downloads its menu structure from GBPVR it looks like the NMT actually just plays files, so in one way its better then the MVP but the overall idea means you cant do things like WEBCAMS and plugins......

Although this site doesnt seem to have all the details, i like the MVP for how you can put things in like Webcams, Weather etc... if the NMT can do this then i would say its a good replacement for the MVP.

[sub]

Yeah, exactly. Unless you can run custom apps on it, or replace the UI like you can with the MVP, then its no better than the dozens of other glorified-file-player media appliances that exist.

[SFX Group]

Yeah, exactly. Unless you can run custom apps on it, or replace the UI like you can with the MVP, then its no better than the dozens of other glorified-file-player media appliances that exist.

however....

It would be nice to see GBPVR able to "share" its data to play on the NMT, problem you have here is i have not seen another "MVP" thats as flexible, how long do you wait until you decide there wont be one.... then find the whole MVP falls dead and end up with a devided "GBPVR + MVP" then a "NMT + PC file share" thing going around.

This said if GBPVR can also "share" its files you have recorded that would be nice, as MVP dies down if theres no replacement you dont loose anything to the NMT type market, i agree you dont have a UI but then if the MVP vanishes you will loose that anyway, this way you dont loose the fileshare media playing gang as well....

something to think about at least and have some investigation done, i for one will look at the methods it uses, it does sound like a glarified file share but theres something else as well about the AV part thats interesting to see if one takes off and leaves the rest.

[sub]

To be honest, if it only does UPnP AV then there isnt really much point in doing anything in GB-PVR. Its not like I can show the recording screen, with show details, tv guide, schedule recordings etc. If the box only does this then you might as well just install any old UPnP server, like twonkyvision etc, and set it to share your recordings directory. This would give you as much as GB-PVR could offer as a UPnP AV server.

A HD client device will eventually appear, but its going to need to be more flexible than this device currently is. That said, they have given some promising posts on their forums about running applications etc, so we'll just have to wait and see if that eventuates, and whether those apps can play media files (could be some sticky problems around Sigma SDK). If it does, then this could be a potential HD client.