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BBC HD changed to BBC2 HD now no EPG data - XMLTV

BBC HD changed to BBC2 HD now no EPG data - XMLTV
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#41
2013-03-31, 04:49 PM
sub Wrote:Here is a patch you can try.

For DVB-S, you need to have a channel enabled from that frequency that carries the EPG.

It appears to work fine Sub.

What DVBGuide does better is to export the metadata such as quality ([HD]) and audio type. The main problem however is that neither extract the episode data from the desricption. Not trivial I presume.
Code:
<programme channel="233a.4084.4440" start="20130330070000 +0000" stop="20130330080000 +0000">
    <!--locator uri="dvb://233a.4084.4440;cd5f@2013-03-30T07:00:00Z/PT01H00M" -->
    <!--cpcm scramble="TRUE" access="0" revocation="FALSE" -->
    <!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/240URQ" -->
    <!--crid type="0x32" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/SRNWR4" -->
    <title lang="en">Great British Menu</title>
    <desc lang="en">Finals Starter: Chefs compete to cook at a banquet to celebrate 25 years of Red Nose Day. Patricia Hodge and the judges taste all eight winning regional starter courses. [HD] [S]</desc>
    <!--content id="0xA0" user="0x00" -->
    <category lang="en">Lifestyle</category>
    <language>en</language>
    <!--component content="0x05" type="0x0B" language="und" -->
    <video>
      <present>yes</present>
      <aspect>16:9</aspect>
      <quality>HDTV</quality>
    </video>
    <!--component content="0x06" type="0x03" language="eng" -->
    <audio>
      <present>yes</present>
      <stereo>stereo</stereo>
    </audio>
    <!--component content="0x03" type="0x14" language="eng" -->
    <subtitles type="teletext">
      <language>en</language>
    </subtitles>
  </programme>


<desc lang="en">...The Return. 1/3. London bus driver Josh returns to the chaotic streets of Manila in the Phillipines. [HD] [S]</desc>
<desc lang="en">3/6. Sketch show written by and starring Kevin Eldon. Kevin finds out what Neil Armstrong really said when he landed on the moon and meets a Beefeater fan. Contains some strong language.  [HD] [S]</desc>
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2013-03-31, 04:56 PM
gEd Wrote:The main problem however is that neither extract the episode data from the description.
Which data are you talking about exactly? Did it not get the equivalent of the <desc> from your xmltv example? or do you meant the commented out <crid>?
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2013-03-31, 04:57 PM
gEd Wrote:What DVBGuide does better is to export the metadata such as quality ([HD]) and audio type.

I wrote something to post-process this data and embed it into the description field, so you end up with something like:

Code:
Animated comedy about four spoilt animals from New York Central Zoo
whose botched escape attempt finds them stranded in the Madagascar jungle.
Ben Stiller and Chris Rock star. [B][HD] [2005] [AD,S,DD,16:9][/B]

DD is for Dolby Digital, but unfortunately there's no data (that I've found) that lets you know if it's 5.1 or not.

gEd Wrote:The main problem however is that neither extract the episode data from the desricption.

There doesn't seem to be any standard used across the channels, so it's probably (nigh on) impossible to parse out.

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2013-03-31, 06:09 PM
sub Wrote:Which data are you talking about exactly? Did it not get the equivalent of the <desc> from your xmltv example? or do you meant the commented out <crid>?

I meant that the subtitle, episode/series data is embedded at the start of the description whereas ideally it should automagically parse the descption field to extract this info and put it into the correct fields in the database. However as Iain stated below, it doesn't confirm to any fixed standard so probably not possible to do this. I thought STB's used this data so I am surprised it isn't made mroe accessable.

What DVBGuide does it to identify [HD] and [S] (and aspect from somewhere in the stream) and create the <quality> , <aspect> and <audio> tags so they get loaded into the right fields. The TV listing plugin then shows the pretty icons accordingly.
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2013-03-31, 06:10 PM
I see the descriptions of many of your shows already have appended information like "[HD] [2005]" encoded into the show description.

I've added code to extract the HD/AC3/16:9/etc from the stream, so that they can be stored as separate attributes like you'd get from an xmltv file, but I cant pass it back to the application until the next release (since I'd need to change an interface).
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2013-03-31, 06:11 PM
What does [S] mean? Standard definition?
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2013-03-31, 06:16 PM
gEd Wrote:I meant that the subtitle, episode/series data is embedded at the start of the description whereas ideally it should automagically parse the descption field to extract this info and put it into the correct fields in the database. However as Iain stated below, it doesn't confirm to any fixed standard so probably not possible to do this. I thought STB's used this data so I am surprised it isn't made mroe accessable.
You don't get this currently from your xmltv file either though do you? This information isn't identified in the stream. There is some season and episode identifiers, but they're just random identifiers, rather than something human readable:

Quote: <!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/240URQ" -->
<!--crid type="0x32" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/SRNWR4" -->

As you mentioned, it looks like some of your show descriptions contain this info in the body of the description, but this is just free text that isn't in any fixed format, and not consistent, so cant really be used.
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2013-03-31, 06:18 PM
sub Wrote:What does [S] mean? Standard definition?
Stereo?
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2013-03-31, 06:30 PM
Subtitles, I think. AD is audio description.

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2013-03-31, 06:31 PM
The random identifiers might be what the boxes use for season record functionality. Just guessing though...

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