BBC HD changed to BBC2 HD now no EPG data - XMLTV

[jcjefferies]

The Freesat EPG is only transmitted on the Freesat home transponder but "Now & Next" are on all transponders. On Freeview each transponder transmits the full EPG for all channels on all transponders but the data for the channels native to the transponder are transmitted at a much higher rate.

I use EPG Collector to generate an XML file from the DVB-T data to import the EPG into NextPVR but the end result looks a lot different to the data produced by DVBGuide. Comparing the same EPG data from DVBGuide and EPG Collector the last block of digits (240URQ) below is the Unique ID of the programme so assume the second item lists the "Series ID"

<!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/240URQ" -->
<!--crid type="0x32" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/SRNWR4" -->

Chris

[gEd]

You don't get this currently from your xmltv file either though do you?

I get subtitle (and usually) episode and series from my XMLTV (Alan Birtles XMLTVGUI) yes (or did I misunderstand your question?). The XML above from a sample from what DVBGuide created from the DVB-T stream.

[jcjefferies]

The same DVB-T EPG entry processed by DVBGuide and EPG Collector

(DVB Guide)
<programme channel="233a.1041.10bf" start="20130331081500 +0000" stop="20130331090000 +0000">
<!--locator uri="dvb://233a.1041.10bf;e5bf@2013-03-31T08:15:00Z/PT00H45M" -->
<!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/23VL83" -->
<!--crid type="0x32" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/L5JWDV" -->
<title lang="en">The A to Z of TV Gardening</title>
<desc lang="en">13/25. Letter M: A look at some of the BBC&apos;s most popular gardening programmes and personalities, presented by Carol Kirkwood. Carol explores subjects that all begin with the letter M. [S]</desc>
<!--content id="0xA0" user="0x00" -->
<category lang="en">Lifestyle</category>
<language>en</language>
<!--component content="0x01" type="0x03" language="eng" -->
<video>
<present>yes</present>
<aspect>16:9</aspect>
</video>
<!--component content="0x02" type="0x03" language="eng" -->
<audio>
<present>yes</present>
<stereo>stereo</stereo>
</audio>
<!--component content="0x03" type="0x10" language="eng" -->
<subtitles type="teletext">
<language>en</language>
</subtitles>
</programme>

(EPG Collector)
<programme start="20130331091500 +0100" stop="20130331100000 +0100" channel="4287">
<title>The A to Z of TV Gardening</title>
<desc>13/25. Letter M: A look at some of the BBC's most popular gardening programmes and personalities, presented by Carol Kirkwood. Carol explores subjects that all begin with the letter M. [S]</desc>
<category>Leisure and Hobbies</category>
<audio>
<stereo>stereo</stereo>
</audio>
<episode-num system="xmltv_ns">/L5JWDV . /23VL83 . 0</episode-num>
</programme>

[sub]

I use EPG Collector to generate an XML file from the DVB-T data to import the EPG into NextPVR but the end result looks a lot different to the data roduced by DVBGuide. Comparing the same EPG data from DVBGuide and EPG Collector the last block of digits (240URQ) below is the Unique ID of the programme so assume the second item lists the "Series ID"

<!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/240URQ" -->
<!--crid type="0x32" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/SRNWR4" -->

That's correct. The 0x31 CRID is the show identifier. The 0x32 CRID is the series identifier.

[sub]

You don't get this currently from your xmltv file either though do you?

I get subtitle (and usually) episode and series from my XMLTV (Alan Birtles XMLTVGUI) yes (or did I misunderstand your question?). The XML above from a sample from what DVBGuide created from the DVB-T stream.

I meant - you don't current get human-readable season/episode numbers from EPGCollector or DVBGuide (like "season 1" "episode 18") in the data. I know they contain the CRID values identifying the episode/series.

Looking at the data in post #53, it doesn't look like the XML for either of these apps supplies human readable series/episode info, or sub title....but...I can see what looks like an episode number ("13/25") in the text of the <desc> description (but no episode number), and it looks like "Letter M:" might be a subtitle. I'm assuming these were part of the description the broadcaster supplied for that show, and the new patch I supplied should also contain this text?

If it had a separate subtitle in the stream, they would have put it in a <sub-title> node in the xml. Instead it just seems to be some random part of the text the broadcaster has supplied for the description.

[gEd]

I'm assuming these were part of the description the broadcaster supplied for that show, and the new patch I supplied should also contain this text?

correct, it does, the same as dvbguide.

Just to clarify : I have been using XMLTV for several years and will continue to use it for as long is it continues to provide accurate info for the very limited number of channels (7) to I use. I tested out DVBguide (and the patch) to experiment (and possibly help).

[sub]

Just to clarify : I have been using XMLTV for several years and will continue to use it for as long is it continues to provide accurate info for the very limited number of channels (7) to I use. I tested out DVBguide (and the patch) to experiment (and possibly help).

Yeah, no worries. Thanks for the help. Just trying to make things as usable-out-of-the-box as possible, so that don't have to hunt down extra utilities to get up an running.

[jcjefferies]

Sub It would be great to get NextPVR to support Unique ID as broadcast in the Freeview data stream. I currently use EPG Collector to extract the EPG and the Unique ID but it combines the "series ID" and "unique ID" into one "Unique ID" block which confuses NextPVR. Luckily my son is a PHP expert and wrote me a script to remove "Series ID" data and some other characters that NextPVR didn't like from the XML file .

[sub]

Sub It would be great to get NextPVR to support Unique ID as broadcast in the Freeview data stream. I currently use EPG Collector to extract the EPG and the Unique ID but it combines the "series ID" and "unique ID" into one "Unique ID" block which confuses NextPVR. Luckily my son is a PHP expert and wrote me a script to remove "Series ID" data and some other characters that NextPVR didn't like from the XML file .

I have changed the app to extract crids for building the unique id, but it changes too many files so I can't do it as a patch. I'll need to add it with the next release.

[imilne]

I have changed the app to extract crids for building the unique id, but it changes too many files so I can't do it as a patch. I'll need to add it with the next release.

So this'll let us use the 'only record new' functionality? With either DVB or xmltv (from DVBGuide) EPG updates?

Iain