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kg4dkf
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2007-01-29, 09:05 PM
Well, I have my system all set up, and there are still some functions that I can't get running with GB-PVR over an MVP.

The MVP doesn't know where I left off in viewing a program. Is this a setting that I missed or something that isn't available in the MVP? Is it because the MVP can't communicate back to the computer for such a feature? Of course, it would be less annoying if I could type in a time to skip to when I start my program, but instead I have to keep hitting the minute forward button to get to where I hit stop (or where the MVP crashed).

I can't get ubustream working, and I don't see any other way to play a streaming MP3 radio stream (I want to be able to listed to wvum.org).

The MVP really should offer a faster version, for people who don't want to wait a second after each remote button and who don't want to have it crash so often. I haven't started to look at those problems yet, but you would think that whatever processor it has is the limiting factor and that Hauppauge would want to improve on it... Of course, having a permanent memory instead of flash would solve any computer-related hiccups, but I think (from watching it start to freeze and then die) that it is crashing because it overloads trying to do too much at once (perhaps based on network traffic conditions or something).

Anyway, does anyone have another plug-in for streaming MP3s and/or a fix for the MVP to remember where you left off in a program? Those two would really help...
Athalon XP 3200+, 2 GB HyperX, 80 gig start drive, 250 gig data drive, Hauppauge PVR-350, Gigabyte Nvidia graphics card 6600 series. Controlling a Motorola cable box (Comcast) and playing back on a wired MVP.
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2007-01-29, 09:17 PM
The MVP doesn't know where I left off in viewing a program.

Config, misc, "prompt for resume"

Of course, it would be less annoying if I could type in a time to skip to when I start my program, but instead I have to keep hitting the minute forward button to get to where I hit stop

Something like 2 0 'skip' should send it forwards 20 minutes.

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2007-01-29, 10:23 PM
You might want to try these network-registry-improvements. Backup and even then all on your risk, but I think a lot of people found them helpful.

http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post171327 post 5.
AMD Athlon 64 3000, HDD: 80, 120, 200 GB, Hauppauge 350 + 150, MVP, Asus 6000L Laptop client, Asus X50sl client,
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2007-01-29, 11:13 PM
kg4dkf Wrote:I can't get ubustream working, and I don't see any other way to play a streaming MP3 radio stream (I want to be able to listed to wvum.org).

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2007-01-29, 11:33 PM
kg4dkf Wrote:The MVP really should offer a faster version, for people who don't want to wait a second after each remote button and who don't want to have it crash so often.

I haven't started to look at those problems yet, but you would think that whatever processor it has is the limiting factor and that Hauppauge would want to improve on it... Of course, having a permanent memory instead of flash would solve any computer-related hiccups, but I think (from watching it start to freeze and then die) that it is crashing because it overloads trying to do too much at once (perhaps based on network traffic conditions or something).

For around 100 dollars US, it's an amazing device. Does it go all the way? No. It does seem like the MVP is made with inexpensive components. It would be nice for Hauppauge to make something sturdier... But they haven't.

The delay in the button click may not be so easy to fix. Perhaps there are things that could still be done to optimize GB-PVR's code, perhaps not. I think it's going to be a fact of life that the current technology, which really just displays an interface that is generated on the Server side, won't get any faster...
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2007-01-30, 05:23 AM
kg4dkf Wrote:I can't get ubustream working, and I don't see any other way to play a streaming MP3 radio stream (I want to be able to listed to wvum.org).

wvum.org appears to provide a standard http mp3 stream, which mvpmc seems to play directly and with gbpvr. There is a minor OSD problem in gbpvr as it says buffering and the logs say waiting, but I assume that is because there is no metadata.

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2007-01-30, 09:45 AM
zehd Wrote:the current technology, which really just displays an interface that is generated on the Server side, won't get any faster...

I think you're right, afaik it's not the MVP being slow, use the original Hauppauge sw and the response on the remote/interface is OK.
Network improvements like HtV suggested did help in my case, a fast, beefy machine helps also, but the fact is that the commands from an MVP have to be "translated" to the GBPVR Interface to do "something"..... my guess is, this is as good as it gets (unless Hauppauge does some sort of magic trick on the dongle.bin......... nah... don't think so....... )
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2007-01-30, 04:31 PM
Yeah, its unlikely the MVP response time is going to reduce much. Every time you press a button on the MVP, the following steps are executed:

1) key press is sent across the network to GB-PVR
2) GB-PVR generates the screen as it normally would
3) GB-PVR converts every pixel that makes up the screen from RGB to YUY2 for MVP compatibility
4) GB-PVR zips the screen to compress it
5) GB-PVR sends the compressed screen back across the network to the MVP
6) The MVP decompresses it
7) The MVP displays the screen image

This is a nice flexible approach that allows us to show any screens we want to on the MVP, but is quite a few steps that needs to occur, which already occurs pretty quickly.

Quote:The MVP really should offer a faster version, for people who don't want to wait a second after each remote button...
I dont know if your "wait a second" part of the comment is just an exaggeration, but for me its more like somewhere between quarter of second and half a second. The faster the server, the faster the response time is, but its unlikely to ever be below about quarter of second.
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2007-02-03, 02:33 PM
oooh something I can actually help with.

"Of course, it would be less annoying if I could type in a time to skip to when I start my program, but instead I have to keep hitting the minute forward button to get to where I hit stop (or where the MVP crashed)."

Mine wouldn't do it either for a while because I had the settings wrong. In config under the playback tab you need to set "Manual Skip Timebease" to Minutes, I think it defaults to seconds. Then you will be able to press 2 skip and move ahead two minutes etc..
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2007-02-03, 03:12 PM
bobbfrommn Wrote:Mine wouldn't do it either for a while because I had the settings wrong. In config under the playback tab you need to set "Manual Skip Timebease" to Minutes, I think it defaults to seconds.
It defaults to minutes. You must have tweaked it to get it to seconds.
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