ati driver

[stustunz]

it seems the clock frequencies are not constant to me not that i know anything
looking at your specs you would thinkit would play video easy

they really have lost the plot i say

owell torrow ill reload the system again fresh on my other hard drive with my nvidia card so i can compare fresh installs and only difference been the video card

the picture is definately beeter setting everything to bob
its almost like it trying to deinterlace it twice

[bigbus01]

Stu,

Just came up with something interesting. I just burned one of my test files off to DVD and it plays flawlessly via the DVD drive. With the file on the hard drive it tears during panning but on the DVD it does not. Have you seen this type of behavior?

Bigbus

[stustunz]

i dont have any of my dvd software loaded yet
maybe its not using direct3d when it plays back from dvd
i have wasted 3 days on this and a fresh install and i dont think im any further ahead everytime i think its getting better im wrong the actual picture is nice and sharp but i just cant get past the slight jerking drives me nuts this was the reason i ditched my 9800xt about 2 years ago and went to 6600 nvidia card for both machines one agp and pcie
it would seem to me either something i am doing wrong or their drivers just dont like mpeg2
i read an artical comparing the 2 and it showed the same results (i think the ati card was a 1600xxx so it doesnt seem to be just these cards doing it)
what software were you playing the dvd through

i see you have a x1300 whats the mpeg playback like on that

[psycik]

strange you're having so many problems...I switched from an nvidia mx440 on my old Athlon 1800 system to a ATI x550 on my AM2 system.

Have some issues with Live Preview mode, but using Cyberlink Power DVD 7 and AC3 Filter for sound I don't have any picture issues. Also for pretty stable, but slightly fuzzy - found ffdshow the easiest to get up and running.

I don't really notice any bad panning....I think Ive set everything to performance and am not running FSE mode, but also I'm outputting via composite to a 28" CRT tv......

[stustunz]

yeah im just at a loss aswell cant use older drivers with my card so that doesnt help
i think i will have to revert back to good old faithfull(nvidia6600) which i hated about a month ago and now im thinking its not so bad after all
but its hard to do when you have something new and really want to get it going properly

[Deusxmachina]

but the my panning shot are still a bit average
getting closer to a picture that i would expect
still seems a bit jerky when there is any movement

Kind of sounds like mine. Using "blend bob" that some decoders use, it looks "ok," while using good "double-framerate bob" such as on the MPV and Bitcontrol decoders (and I think the card itself when a software deinterlacer isn't overriding it, which seems often) it looks great but then the gpu is maxed out and causes little stutters.

My pro has half the memory your xt does. I'm still trying to find out for sure how much more power the xt has in the real world. Tough information to come by. All the website reviews on these cards, yet all they focus on is either how bad they are at games or how good they are at .264. Almost nothing about how they are with mpeg2.

[stustunz]

yeah i know they seem to have forgotten about poor old mpeg
your in america i would have thought it would be better since you can set your refresh to 60hz matching the stream then just turn on wait for vertical sync and it should be all good

i just reloaded my nvidia card set didnt change a thing and it looked just the same with the jerkiness as the ati card

But heres the thing i changed the vertical sync set the refresh to 50hz(pal) and what do you know the ticker of the writting going accross the screen is smooth always test with that if you can get the credit or writting smooth everything will be aswell
another thing with the nvidia cards you can turn everything off antialiasing etc

plusses of ati2400hd
the picture is sharp
the colours are nice things look real

negative
the panninng shots i cant get right
unsure why (frequency just doesnt seem to match video )

nvidia card plusses
the frequecies can be manipulated more
the resolution can be set to what you want
so the panning shots are smooth

negatives
the picture is to soft
the picture doesnt fit the tv as nice (can be fixed in gbpvr config)

if using a digital lcd display i believe the hd2400 would probably be fine
i think ati havent got the deinterlacing/interlacing system right with their drivers as far as this card goes
im sure other people have had no problems it comes down to so many different things
systemboard /cpu /manufacturer/tv display etc
so im not saying this card is a bad card its just a bad card for me

[bigbus01]

Stu,

My 3200+ with the x1300 (agp) doesn't do that badly with PVRX2 -fse. It stutters only slightly worse than the 4600+ with the HD2600XT. The 2600XT got me better live TV but that is all I got out of buying it. The onboard NVIDIA didn't do that badly (Live TV was poor but file playback wasn't any worse than with the ATI). This whole thing is disappointing.

When I did the comparison with the harddrive playback and the DVD playback, I was using PVRX2 -fse in both cases. I added the DVD drive to the video library directory and played the DVR-MS file (hard drive copy and Nero burned copy). The test file was a Rick Steve's Travel show which should be 1080i.

Bigbus

[stustunz]

that is strange maybe ask sub if there is any difference
the harddrive you would think be faster to access than the dvdrom
i wonder if nero changed something in the file

yes very disappointing false advertising if you ask me

[bigbus01]

Stu,

Are you still messing with your 2400? My 2600 has been getting worse. I've been watching some new shows in 720p and I am getting a lot of stutters and horizontal lines that show up in motion. I can't stand to watch it.

I just noticed ATI has a new Catalyst so I installed it. Things didn't get any better. This pushed me to reinstall the drivers from the CD that came with the card (MSI). Since installing it, I can run NVidia Purevideo and it works well (I don't see the hardware acceleration icon that you have talked about). The CPU is at 25%.

With the newer drivers, Purevideo was very jerky for me. I'll let you know how it goes.

Bigbus