Pal WS TV display stretched

[Jaggy]

I finally bit the bullet & for a birthday pressie for the Boss purchased a secondhand 23" WS LCD to replace that stupid old 14" SD TV in the bedroom.

In the specs it is capable of 1080i but it only has scart, compisite & an svideo connections & a DVI connector. When stetting up the NMT the only selection under compisite is NTSC or PAL but when selecting PAL it then uses the index_sd.htm (as I would expect) & selects 800x600 as it's mode so all the menus & photos are squashed & stretched (when she saw a picture of herself the comment was "I am not a short or fat as that"), when I tried to force 720(50) the TV did display a message saying "Widescreen" (which was promising) but it didn't display the pvr menu. I am not sure what is the recommended way to setup this type of TV with the NMT? I was also wondering if I got a hdmi to dvi connector if firstly that would work & secondly as the Boss uses the TV sleep off function every night this will cause it problems using hdmi.

[mvallevand]

When I started I used a cheap HDMI to DVI connector and I could even get 1080p out of it. The risk here is I have never tested driving the analog audio out and HDMI simultaneously.

However note that doesn't sound like a TV that sounds like a computer monitor with a built in SD tuner. Another potential gotcha is the 1080i might be designed with a fixed rate of 60hz rather than 50hz.

Martin

[Jaggy]

When I started I used a cheap HDMI to DVI connector and I could even get 1080p out of it. The risk here is I have never tested driving the analog audio out and HDMI simultaneously.

Sorry you lost me, do you mean it wouldn't receive the sound through the hdmi connector??

However note that doesn't sound like a TV that sounds like a computer monitor with a built in SD tuner.

here is a link to the web site for it
http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbin...=gb&slg=en
it is a TV with things like the sleep function etc. that you don't get on a computer monitor

Another potential gotcha is the 1080i might be designed with a fixed rate of 60hz rather than 50hz.
Martin

I wasn't trying to get 1080i I was trying for 720 as personally I can't see any real difference between them on our 42" TV. If I do connect it up hdmi through the dvi connector will the putting the TV to sleep timer cause a problem??

[mvallevand]

Sorry you lost me, do you mean it wouldn't receive the sound through the hdmi connector??

You lost me know, weren't you saying it only had DVI? There is no audio in DVI input.

here is a link to the web site for it
http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbin...=gb&slg=en
it is a TV with things like the sleep function etc. that you don't get on a computer monitor

I will maintain that signage products are more monitor than TV.

I wasn't trying to get 1080i I was trying for 720 as personally I can't see any real difference between them on our 42" TV. If I do connect it up hdmi through the dvi connector will the putting the TV to sleep timer cause a problem??

I recommend 1080i/p for mvpmcx2, because the OSD looks much sharper. It's still HDMI, and the ability to recover from sleep will vary by HDMI/CEC implementation. The recommendation is exit to the NMT menu always when not using NPVR.

Martin

[Jaggy]

You lost me know, weren't you saying it only had DVI? There is no audio in DVI input.

Yeah sorry I am way out of date when it comes to this type computer/TV stuff, it is DVI only so no sound

I will maintain that signage products are more monitor than TV.

If worst come to worst I could do with a new computer monitor to replace this aged old 19" CRT <grin> & the price was right especially for a computer monitor

I recommend 1080i/p for mvpmcx2, because the OSD looks much sharper. It's still HDMI, and the ability to recover from sleep will vary by HDMI/CEC implementation. The recommendation is exit to the NMT menu always when not using NPVR. Martin

I was fairly sure that was the recommendation & that was why I was trying to get WS display working through the compisite ports as there is NO WAY (& I wouldn't expect her to) she isn't going to wake up just to put the NMT into standby before the TV turns itself off... Oh well you live & learn I guess & I nearly always buy the "wrong thing" which is bloody annoying when you don't have much money.

[mvallevand]

Yeah sorry I am way out of date when it comes to this type computer/TV stuff, it is DVI only so no sound

The analog sound might still work, I just never tested it

Martin

[Jaggy]

I will try hooking up HDMI on the 42" & hooking up some speakers direct to the analogue output on the NMT as soon as I get some time to see what it does before getting a HDMI->DVI adapter.