newCS/Acamd gives "TVNZ" message when switching channel

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09:47:24: PMT: Cache file, search, not found PMT=0030 (AND SID=0260)

From the messages like this in the monitor, I'd guess it's not really using the name, but is instead keying it's lookups on the PMT and SID.

[WKleeven]

Acamd uses the channel name and other paramaters (hash) to build a cache file where it stores the last used caid chid pmt and so on. You also can put this info in the ACamd_PMT.txt, infact you can copy the content of chcache.ini to the ACamd_PMT.txt file by stripping the part till the = sign on every line.
This solves also the pmt not found warinings in the acamd log. This doesn't work if the channel names are not passed to acamd in the right way.

I can live with the above problem, but the zap speed is terrible slow.

On other hardware it does work normal ? I can also test on my other pc which has Technotrend 1501...

I am also having a slow channel change AND these messages in acamd monitor: "PMT not found..." and "ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0036 (AND SID=00D2)".
I don't understand how my acamd_pmt.txt file should look like. I'm a Ziggo user.

I read somewhere on the internet: The file ACamd_PMT.txt is used for not good detected channels static, or caid renaming and provider-id input.
Could it be acamd is trying to scan something, isn't able to find anything and in the mean time it takes a long time to show the channel?

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Wim, you don't need acamd_pmt.txt, all you should use is the dll and cardclient.conf to connect to newcs.

Chris

[WKleeven]

Hi Chris,

I started another thread about slow channel change and concluded it must be the encryption part that's taking too long. After searching the forums, I found this thread which I thought might cover the same problem. I thought I'd post here further. Now I'm getting answers on the other thread too. Just so you know.

The acamd monitor is giving some info which makes me think it's taking too long. I just don't know what. I'm desperately trying to understand it.

Wim

[Reddwarf]

Hi Chris,

I started another thread about slow channel change and concluded it must be the encryption part that's taking too long. After searching the forums, I found this thread which I thought might cover the same problem. I thought I'd post here further. Now I'm getting answers on the other thread too. Just so you know.

The acamd monitor is giving some info which makes me think it's taking too long. I just don't know what. I'm desperately trying to understand it.

Wim

If we stick to this thread, can you zip and post the log from Acamd monitor that shows a channel change?

[WKleeven]

If, like you said in the other thread, 6-7 seconds is normal with encrypted channels on the same digital card then I guess there is no problem. But I will post the acamd monitor anyway.
I thought from the posts in this thread before, that 6-7 seconds is way too much.

Would a hardware cam be that much faster? People who have a ci/cam in the tv have much faster channel change. I understand it's partly due to the dvb-c card but is seems that only the decryption with the softcam takes 4 seconds.
I wanted to figure this out, because in the future I'll buy another extender and wanted to use it to watch livetv with it. But my wife won't accept it (watching livetv with it, the rest she likes) if channel change takes 6-7s.

Here it is, started NPVR and then changed channels 2x:

#NEXT#
C:\Users\Public\NPVR\MDPlugins\TechniSat Mantis DVBC BDA Receiver #1-1\ACamd.dll
09:03:04.841:
09:03:04.841: Ch: 100 - TVNZ
09:03:04.841: Programm crc: BAEB0310
09:03:04.841: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0064 (AND SID=089C)
09:03:04.841: PMT: chcache.ini, 0064,089C,0604,00000000,1392,041C,TVNZ
09:03:04.842: 0x0064 0x089C 0x0604 0x00000000 0x1392 0x041C 11111110
09:03:05.892: 0: chid 000B*
09:03:05.892: 0: chid 270E
09:03:06.135: Newcamd 0: ECM [1392][0604/00000000] Pro, CHID=000B (0.243)
09:03:06.135: [00] SendDCW Odd: :7492ECF23F091F67
09:03:06.135: [00] SendDCW Even: 1191B95BB493DF26:
09:03:06.383: Newcamd 0: ECM [1392][0604/00000000] Pro, CHID=000B (0.247)
09:03:06.383: [00] SendDCW Odd: :A5D332AAD1244C41
09:03:06.383: [00] SendDCW Even: BC7A5E94A5CF53C7:
09:03:11.306: Newcamd 0: EMM [041C][0604/00000000] Pro, [02] (0.000)
09:03:12.266: Newcamd 0: ECM [1392][0604/00000000] Pro, CHID=000B (0.246)
09:03:12.267: [00] SendDCW Even: 793A984BE7C01CC3:
09:03:18.677:
09:03:18.677: Ch: 120 - TVNZ
09:03:18.677: Programm crc: CBEB3808
09:03:18.680: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0078 (AND SID=00CD)
09:03:18.680: PMT: chcache.ini, 0078,00CD,0604,00000000,138D,041C,TVNZ
09:03:18.681: 0x0078 0x00CD 0x0604 0x00000000 0x138D 0x041C 11111110
09:03:20.552: 0: chid 000B*
09:03:20.552: 0: chid 270E
09:03:20.799: Newcamd 0: ECM [138D][0604/00000000] Pro, CHID=000B (0.247)
09:03:20.799: [00] SendDCW Odd: :9B7349575C742EFE
09:03:20.799: [00] SendDCW Even: F3180C17949E497B:
09:03:30.370: Newcamd 0: EMM [041C][0604/00000000] Pro, [02] (0.001)
09:03:30.606: Newcamd 0: EMM [041C][0604/00000000] Pro, [02] (0.000)
09:03:37.681:
09:03:37.681: Ch: 1200 - TVNZ
09:03:37.681: Programm crc: 28073C36
09:03:37.682: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=04B0 (AND SID=00D1)
09:03:37.683: PMT: chcache.ini, 04B0,00D1,0604,00000000,138A,041C,TVNZ
09:03:37.683: 0x04B0 0x00D1 0x0604 0x00000000 0x138A 0x041C 11111110
09:03:38.428: Newcamd 0: EMM [041C][0604/00000000] Pro, [02] (0.000)
Blocked 1 same messages...
09:03:39.436: 0: chid 000B*
09:03:39.436: 0: chid 270E
09:03:39.761: Newcamd 0: ECM [138A][0604/00000000] Pro, CHID=000B (0.325)
09:03:39.761: [00] SendDCW Odd: :4367A14B27EEE0F5
09:03:39.761: [00] SendDCW Even: 245EA7296D3E40EB:
09:03:41.519: Newcamd 0: EMM [041C][0604/00000000] Pro, [02] (0.000)

[Reddwarf]

I can't see anything wrong in this segment, Chris?

I have a dvb-t card with HW-CAM, and it takes considerably longer to start live-tv, and also there channel changing varies from 4 to 8 seconds. I guess it is because the channel spesific key is transmitted every 10'th second.

[WKleeven]

I don't know if this is related, but I think acamd.ini is not being used. For example, Trayicon=1 but no trayicon appears (only when starting recording service manually).
But also, when I do some settings, nothing changes. Even "blablabla" makes no error or something.

[Reddwarf]

I don't know if this is related, but I think acamd.ini is not being used. For example, Trayicon=1 but no trayicon appears (only when starting recording service manually).
But also, when I do some settings, nothing changes. Even "blablabla" makes no error or something.

Where is your Acamd.ini(s) located?

[WKleeven]

In "C:\Users\Public\NPVR\MDPlugins\TechniSat Mantis DVBC BDA Receiver #1-1". It decrypts, so it seems to work, just doesn't start in the tray except when starting recording service manually.