BBC HD changed to BBC2 HD now no EPG data - XMLTV

[sub]

Sub have you any idea what crid type="0x33" is? Most entries have an "0x31" and "0x32" but many also have a "0x33" and some entries have "0x31" and "0x33" as below. EPG Collector does not seem to use this entry although oddly the data sometimes seems to be a valid Unique ID for a different programme.

<!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/23UUVU" -->
<!--crid type="0x32" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/L68RDT" -->
<!--crid type="0x33" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/23V6O5" -->

<!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/156L17" -->
<!--crid type="0x33" uri="crid://fp.bbc.co.uk/1RKEMC" -->

0x33 is a recommendation of another show.

[imilne]

Are the codes documented anywhere?

Iain

[jcjefferies]

Sub is the crid below going to cause a problem for NextPVR with the "/" in the middle of the ID? Its a format used by several channels.

<!--crid type="0x31" uri="crid://www.channel4.com/52793/001" -->

When IDs using this format were imported from EPG collector the Unique_ID field in the database I think were blank. I now do some postprocessing on the XML file before it is imported into NextPVR and change the extra "/" into "-" which produces a valid Unique_ID such as "52793-001"

[imilne]

Couldn't we just use the full string without any processing? It'll still be unique (per show instance), eg:

Code:

<unique-identifier>crid type="0x31" uri="crid://www.channel4.com/52793/001"</unique-identifier>

Might be safer than second guessing the formats used by the broadcasters?

Iain

[sub]

Sub is the crid below going to cause a problem for NextPVR with the "/" in the middle of the ID?

No, it just has to be a unique string. The app doesn't attempt to parse it.

[sub]

Couldn't we just use the full string without any processing? It'll still be unique (per show instance), eg:

Code:

<unique-identifier>crid type="0x31" uri="crid://www.channel4.com/52793/001"</unique-identifier>

Might be safer than second guessing the formats used by the broadcasters?

You could do this if you wanted. As mentioned, it just has to be a string that uniquely identifies this show.

[imilne]

I'm giving up on this (for tonight), but my first attempt doesn't seem to be working very well.

It's impossible to parse on the slashes as so many of the entries have mistakes (eg uri="crid://news.sky.comS21465354"), so I broke it down to what I figured was suitable giving examples like the following which is just the two strings combined:

Code:

www.channel4.com/56343/004/www.channel4.com/56343

Unfortunately on the Big Bang Theory test it doesn't seem to work. Either I've stuffed up my parsing (highly likely ), or they're not setting the CRIDs correctly. I've attached a screenshot showing duplicate broadcasts as seen by the database. From a quick skim, most of them are non-unique...

Iain

[sub]

Either I've stuffed up my parsing (highly likely ), or they're not setting the CRIDs correctly. I've attached a screenshot showing duplicate broadcasts as seen by the database.

Yep. It'll be one of those.

You may find some companies make up a new number for every show if they don't have this info available.

[Graham]

Did you find

http://www.tv-anytime.org/

which has a link to

ftp://ftp.bbc.co.uk/pub/Specifications/0...tions.html

which has a link to

ftp://tva:tva@ftp.bbc.co.uk/pub/Specific...004v10.zip

I looked for and did not find more detail about the "magic numbers" at the end of each CRID.

[Croftie]

I think the only way is to map them and then look at the description for the evening news as it usually mentions the region by name. Or search the xml for the same info.

Iain

Looking at your xmltv extract, the second third and fourth entry for ITV +1 have lcn=33 (that is the channel no) The others have incomplete info So in the drop down list It should be one of these - 2,3,4 - as Iain said checking the local news description is probably the easiest way to identify the correct one of those three.

I suspect that the reference to West Midlands is about the transmitter group ... Sutton Coldfield and all its dozens of relays. It may be a coincidence that the transmitter group matches the local TV area. The transmitter group around here is, I think, called Mendip (also the name of the main transmitter) and does not match a TV region.

Thanks, learn't a few things there.

This BBC blog from a BBC director states that (for those of us on the right side of the border....) BBC Two HD will be a simulcast of the standard definition version of BBC2 that is broadcast in England,
i.e. their EPGs are the same.

Thanks for the link, people in the comments equally annoyed about the change, suggestions of more HD channels at the end of this year/beggining of the next and all HD available on iplayer which would be better than nothing. The comments are closed now unfortunatly.

I must get around to getting 1 minute full ts recordings from one of these frequencies, so that I can add native support for these Freesat style Huffman encoded EPG.

Anyone want to supply a file?

Brilliant, I presume you have what you need now. What's the status of the patch you posted, shall I give it a go?