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Current outstanding issues with HDHomeRun Prime + NextPVR + XBMC

 
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Current outstanding issues with HDHomeRun Prime + NextPVR + XBMC
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2013-05-20, 07:56 PM
I have a little list of outstanding issues I wanted to fix at home before I was super happy with my current Media Center setup with respect to NPVR so I figured I would list them out here to have what I view as bugs listed in one place. I hope this will be helpful to others or perhaps even me in the case that there are issues I am having which can potentially be fixed. A couple of these issues are absolute show-stoppers while others are just "nice to have".

If anyone else running the same setup as mentioned in the subject is having an issue not reported here please let me know so I can hopefully capture it. If you are having an issue which is not related to the specific setup mentioned here please do not use this thread.

NOTE: NOT ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE ON THE NPVR SIDE, SOME ARE SIMPLY XBMC ISSUES ACROSS ALL BACKENDS

These issues are relevant for, but not limited to, the following setup:

Windows 7 64-Bit
XBMC 12.2 Frodo
NPVR 2.6.2
XBMC NPVR Addon 1.6.4 as packaged with XBMC 12.2
HDHomeRun Prime using CableCARD

NPVR Related Issues

Timeshift Files Stay in Place

Description of problem:
Upon changing channels the previous channel seems to continue recording.

Symptoms:
The issues with this are that 1) Eventually your hard drive will get full and they only way to delete the timeshift files is to stop all NPVR services, delete the files, and start the services back up and 2) After you change channels 3 times (in the case of a 3 tuner HDHomeRun Prime) you will run out of tuners and XBMC will freeze/crash/report there are no tuners left.

Thread discussing issue.

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
None have worked for me specifically, have not tried to temporarily disable the timeshift feature entirely.

EPG Genre Colors Not Set

Description of problem:
It is not possible to set XBMC to use colors in the EPG relevant to the genre of a program on television.

Thread discussing issue.

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
Apparently fixed in v1.6.5 of NPVR addon for XBMC however the relevant genre mappings may not be in place. Need documentation on how to create relevant mappings and/or customize EPG colors as are relevant to your source of EPG data.

Channel Changes Freeze

Description of problem:
When using XBMC 12.2 with NPVR Addon 1.6.5 changing channels causes XBMC to freeze and the only fix is to kill XBMC and restart it.

Symptoms
You can begin to watch one channel fine, upon switching to a second channel you will see it begin to record a timeshift file (which will quickly disappear) and the NPVR status will report the new channel is tuned and the tuner is in use but XBMC will sit there and behave as if it is playing the new channel although it is not. A frozen view of the previous channel will remain on the screen. At this point the only thing which can be done is to forcibly close XBMC, stop all NPVR processes, clean up timeshift files and restart everything. It is impossible to ever change channels for me when I am in this particular configuration.

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
Do not use version 1.6.5 of XBMC NPVR Addon

XBMC Live TV Issues

Unable to set up recurring recordings from within XBMC

Description of problem:
Recurring recordings set from within XBMC do not actually work.

Thread discussing issue.

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
This is apparently an issue on the XBMC side. Currently the only workaround is to use the NPVR web-gui to set up any recurring recordings.

Channel Changes are Slow

Description of problem:
This is not an NPVR issue but an XBMC issue where changing channels can take between 5-7 seconds.

Thread discussing issue

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
The above thread is actually not a discussion surrounding NPVR however the fixes posted within that thread will apparently speed up channel changes from 5-7 seconds down to 1-2 seconds when using NPVR. I have not had success with using the 12.2 "Margro" build of XBMC because it comes packaged with NPVR addon 1.6.5 which makes me unable to change channels as mentioned above.
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2013-05-20, 08:11 PM
werkkrew Wrote:Channel Changes are Slow

Description of problem:
This is not an NPVR issue but an XBMC issue where changing channels can take between 5-7 seconds.

Thread discussing issue

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
The above thread is actually not a discussion surrounding NPVR however the fixes posted within that thread will apparently speed up channel changes from 5-7 seconds down to 1-2 seconds when using NPVR. I have not had success with using the 12.2 "Margro" build of XBMC because it comes packaged with NPVR addon 1.6.5 which makes me unable to change channels as mentioned above.
This is an XBMC bug, and fixes should be included in the next major XBMC release. As you've pointed out, some early builds have been posted. This made a big difference for me. The Margro build got my channel change times down to about a second.
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2013-05-20, 08:14 PM
werkkrew Wrote:Unable to set up recurring recordings from within XBMC

Description of problem:
Recurring recordings set from within XBMC do not actually work.

Thread discussing issue.

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
This is apparently an issue on the XBMC side. Currently the only workaround is to use the NPVR web-gui to set up any recurring recordings.
Yep, this is an XBMC limitation. When XBMC adds support for proper scheduling, I'll add support for it in the NextPVR addon. Until then you'll need to do your scheduling in NextPVR itself, or via NEWA.
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2013-05-20, 08:15 PM
werkkrew Wrote:EPG Genre Colors Not Set

Description of problem:
It is not possible to set XBMC to use colors in the EPG relevant to the genre of a program on television.

Thread discussing issue.

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
Apparently fixed in v1.6.5 of NPVR addon for XBMC however the relevant genre mappings may not be in place. Need documentation on how to create relevant mappings and/or customize EPG colors as are relevant to your source of EPG data.
As mentioned, this change has already been made. Just waiting for it to make it is way through the very long slow XBMC release process.
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2013-05-20, 08:18 PM
werkkrew Wrote:Timeshift Files Stay in Place

Description of problem:
Upon changing channels the previous channel seems to continue recording.

Symptoms:
The issues with this are that 1) Eventually your hard drive will get full and they only way to delete the timeshift files is to stop all NPVR services, delete the files, and start the services back up and 2) After you change channels 3 times (in the case of a 3 tuner HDHomeRun Prime) you will run out of tuners and XBMC will freeze/crash/report there are no tuners left.

Thread discussing issue.

Current Fixes or Workarounds?
None have worked for me specifically, have not tried to temporarily disable the timeshift feature entirely.
There was an updated addon posted in that thread. Reproduce this problem with that update installed, then post the xbmc.log and web.log/nrecord.log and I'll take a look.
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2013-05-20, 09:43 PM
sub Wrote:There was an updated addon posted in that thread. Reproduce this problem with that update installed, then post the xbmc.log and web.log/nrecord.log and I'll take a look.

Thanks for the responses!

As I posted over in that thread - both the updated dll from the timeshift file thread as well as the 1.6.5 addon packaged with the "Margro" 12.2 XBMC cause the channel change freezing issue I mention here.

I just re-updated to the addon dll posted in the timeshift thread, reproduced the issue and captured the logs which are attached.
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2013-05-20, 10:22 PM
In that log, it doesn't look like you're using the updated addon.

Can you enabled debug logging in XBMC, then reproduce the problem and repost the three logs?
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2013-05-20, 10:59 PM
I just reproduced it again and made sure I 100% replaced the addon DLL before I did and also enabled XBMC Debug logs.

On top of that I also included a screenshot of the addon files last modified date/time so you can verify it is the correct one.

Interestingly, this time I had to change the channel twice before I got it to freeze but it still froze/crashed XBMC.
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2013-05-20, 11:19 PM
I'm looking for something in particular in the web.log, but unfortunately yours rolled over creating a new file, so the details I'm looking for a missing. Can you have another try at reproducing and posting those logs? Make sure your restart the recording service prior to the test, and don't leave it too long on each channel.
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2013-05-21, 04:12 AM
Sorry for the delay, I had some house guests.

I reproduced the issue again and also included some of the older logs in the zip file as well. Hopefully I got what you needed.
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