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EPG found only on SOME channels (DVB-T, CZ)

EPG found only on SOME channels (DVB-T, CZ)
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2017-03-24, 08:58 AM (This post was last modified: 2017-03-24, 09:10 AM by Miroslav Pragl.)
Hi,
I've just installed nexptvr on Win 10/32b. Realtek USB DVB-T tuner, works fine with many programs.
Unfortuantely EPG is read only from SOME channels (tried increasing EPGScanSeconds to 300 seconds, enabled EPGLiveTVUpdates .... no EPG).

ndigitalhost-20.log says when tuning for the channel and then exiting to main menu (hope this is relevant):

Code:
... 2017-03-24 09:41:58.219 [DEBUG][8] About to tune BDA graph: <tuning> <type>DVB-T</type> <locator> <frequency>602000</frequency> <bandwidth>8</bandwidth> </locator> <service_id>264</service_id> <tsid>3841</tsid> <onid>8395</onid> <service_type>1</service_type> <provider>Progress Digital s.r.o.</provider> </tuning> 2017-03-24 09:41:58.219 [DEBUG][8] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@1 2017-03-24 09:41:58.219 [DEBUG][8] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@2 2017-03-24 09:41:58.219 [DEBUG][8] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@3 2017-03-24 09:41:58.219 [DEBUG][8] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@4 2017-03-24 09:41:58.311 [DEBUG][8] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@5 2017-03-24 09:42:01.193 [DEBUG][8] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@post 2017-03-24 09:42:01.193 [DEBUG][8] whoosh whoosh 2017-03-24 09:42:01.261 [DEBUG][8] Calling LockChannel() 2017-03-24 09:42:01.297 [DEBUG][8] locked=1, present=1, strength=65, quality=100 (took 47ms to check) 2017-03-24 09:42:01.299 [DEBUG][8] File size is 0 2017-03-24 09:42:01.299 [INFO][8] DigitalRecorder.StartStream() allocated handle: 0xA 2017-03-24 09:42:01.303 [DEBUG][8] Temp at 24.03.2017 9:42:11 2017-03-24 09:42:01.336 [DEBUG][8] Got 37 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:42:05.894 [DEBUG][8] Got 272 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:42:40.136 [DEBUG][8] Got 1246 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:45:17.337 [DEBUG][8] Got 3 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:45:20.419 [DEBUG][8] Got 6 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:45:22.063 [DEBUG][8] Got 10 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:45:36.647 [INFO][18] DigitalRecorder.StopStream() handle: A ...

but EPG is unpopulated.
Same channel is available WITH SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NAME (!) on two different freqs/transporders/providers - one without, one with EPG.Could this be the reason (unable to map?):

CT:D / CT art ... Freq:602000 SID:264 (one W/O EPG)
CT :D / CT art ... Freq:778000 SID:264 (one WITH EPG - note extra space between T and :!)


This is the second freq where EPG gets assigned:

Code:
... 2017-03-24 09:48:09.400 [DEBUG][20] About to tune BDA graph: <tuning> <type>DVB-T</type> <locator> <frequency>778000</frequency> <bandwidth>8</bandwidth> </locator> <service_id>264</service_id> <tsid>770</tsid> <onid>8395</onid> <service_type>1</service_type> <provider>CDG</provider> </tuning> 2017-03-24 09:48:09.400 [DEBUG][20] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@1 2017-03-24 09:48:09.400 [DEBUG][20] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@2 2017-03-24 09:48:09.401 [DEBUG][20] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@3 2017-03-24 09:48:09.401 [DEBUG][20] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@4 2017-03-24 09:48:09.447 [DEBUG][20] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@5 2017-03-24 09:48:11.886 [DEBUG][20] DigitalRecorderDVBT::Tune@post 2017-03-24 09:48:11.886 [DEBUG][20] whoosh whoosh 2017-03-24 09:48:11.942 [DEBUG][20] Calling LockChannel() 2017-03-24 09:48:11.978 [DEBUG][20] locked=1, present=1, strength=41, quality=100 (took 31ms to check) 2017-03-24 09:48:11.979 [DEBUG][20] File size is 0 2017-03-24 09:48:11.979 [INFO][20] DigitalRecorder.StartStream() allocated handle: 0xB 2017-03-24 09:48:11.981 [DEBUG][20] Temp at 24.03.2017 9:48:21 2017-03-24 09:48:11.993 [DEBUG][20] Got 70 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:48:12.786 [DEBUG][20] Got 73 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:48:13.505 [DEBUG][20] Got 127 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:48:16.166 [DEBUG][20] Got 426 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:48:23.851 [DEBUG][20] Got 1014 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:48:42.381 [DEBUG][20] Got 29 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:48:50.030 [DEBUG][20] Got 5 EPG Events 2017-03-24 09:50:20.991 [INFO][6] DigitalRecorder.StopStream() handle: B 2017-03-24 09:50:21.142 [INFO][6] No more streams active. Stopping device. ...

Thanks. Will post any requested logs as soon as asked.

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2017-03-24, 05:26 PM
If you can supply a one minute full transport stream for the frequency of one of these channels, I can load it up here, and see what is happening.

You can capture the full transport stream using the tscapture from http://www.tscapture.com. The evaluation version allows you to capture up to 1 minute files without buying a license.
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2017-03-24, 06:14 PM (This post was last modified: 2017-03-24, 06:48 PM by Miroslav Pragl.)
Thanx for quick reply. The scans from both frequencies with CT:D / CT art channels are some 400 megs. Are you sure I should upload them here?

File size is FAR beyond limit of this foru, DOwnload it from http://pragl.cz/tmp/Captures.rar please.

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2017-03-24, 08:30 PM
Unfortunately I'm getting listings from both those frequencies (with the exception of two radio channels). If I hadn't got the listings, it would have been much easier to delve into.

I got the complete listings for both frequencies, just using the default 60 seconds per frequency.
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2017-03-24, 08:32 PM
Do you have 'update DVB EPG during live tv' unchecked on Settings->Misc? You should do.
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2017-03-25, 02:30 AM
Yes, the attached logs show nextpwr can see listings - but then it doesn't populate them.

I had 'update DVB EPG during live tv' unchecked, but after several unsuccessful attempts to get EPG working I turned it on. Unchecked back to default and giving it another try.

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2017-03-25, 03:00 AM
Were those original logs with 'update DVB EPG during live tv' unchecked?
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2017-03-25, 03:38 AM
No, after checking it.

I gave up and completerly uninstalled nextpwr, cleaned up settings and installed again - same behavior.
One more idea: where do I see signal strength / quality? Some channels / transponders are far away from me and although tunable and watchable, these are weak and sometimes dropouts occur. Usually I remove dupes with lower signal / quality, but as I'm new to nextpvr I don't know how to.

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2017-03-25, 03:44 AM
Miroslav Pragl Wrote:No, after checking it.

I gave up and completerly uninstalled nextpwr, cleaned up settings and installed again - same behavior.
If you want to do an 'Update EPG' with it unchecked, and repost the logs, I'll take another.

Quote:One more idea: where do I see signal strength / quality? Some channels / transponders are far away from me and although tunable and watchable, these are weak and sometimes dropouts occur. Usually I remove dupes with lower signal / quality, but as I'm new to nextpvr I don't know how to.
If you press Ctrl-I in Live TV, it should show you the reported signal strength and quality. NextPVR doesn't show this info prominently support for it is very patchy - with some manufacturers using different ranges, and some not reporting anything, and some using hardcoded 100% type values in the presence of any signal.

Alternatively you can see it in the log snippets you posted above:
Quote:2017-03-24 09:42:01.297 [DEBUG][8] locked=1, present=1, strength=65, quality=100 (took 47ms to check)
Quote:2017-03-24 09:48:11.978 [DEBUG][20] locked=1, present=1, strength=41, quality=100 (took 31ms to check)
ie, one appears to be better than the other. "41" might be a poor signal - hard to know for sure...some manufacturers use "0 to 100", in which case this is probably poor. Other manufactures use "-4500 to 100", and anything above negative values is considered OK.
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2017-03-25, 04:05 AM
Sure, I don't take the figures absolutely, but as a general guideline "this one is far better, I'll keep it". Anyway, the 1st one without EPG seems better ... :/

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