NextPVR 4.2.4 on same machine with 7.0.1.241229

[lemmy999]

I ran 4.2.4 on my Win7 machine until early 2025 with an older version of Kodi on 3 different Nvidia Shields and everything worked great.  In early 2025 I upgraded to Windows 10 finally and then I updated to NextPVR 29    7.0.1.241229 and I updated Kodi on a couple of my Shields. I remember everything working well but I haven't used NPVR to record until now.  Unfortunately I never uninstalled 4.2.4 and they are both running on this machine.  

I am pretty sure 7.0.1 is placed in C:\ProgramFiles\NPVR and the data directory for 7.0.1 is C:\Users\Public\NPVR-data\   I couldn't get the web interface to load and I remembered that I had changed it to a different port since 4.2.4 was still on the machine.  I looked through the \NPVR-data\config.xml file and found that I had changed it to 8867.  So the web interface seems to be working and so I assume the 7.0.1 service is running.  

But tonight I quickly tried to start a recording. I went to the system tray, right clicked on NPVR, then clicked "Start NextPVR".  But after starting the recording, I noticed that it was the old 4.2.4 client.  I then noticed in Task Manager -> Startup that NTray is loading from C:\Program Files (x86)\NPVR which I assume is the 4.2.4 installation direction.  But in Services, I notice that the location of the service that is started is C:\Program Files\NextPVR\NextPVRService.exe, so I assume the 7.0.1 service is running. 

Is the old 4.2.4 client still able to record using the 7.0.1 service?  I'm just a bit confused about what is 4.2.4 and what is 7.0.1.  I have the older Kodi and older NPVR add-on on one Shield.  I was able to start a recording on that Shield and it created a file on my computer, but the file was just 0 bytes and that Kodi does not show the recording I had created on the computer with the 4.2.4 client, although the newer Kodi's on the other two Shields do show the recording created with the 4.2.4 client on the computer.  

Will just uninstalling 4.2.4 solve my issues/confusion?  Thanks.

[mvallevand]

No the clients must match the server, for Kodi it will be based on the port I would disable the v4 server in Windows services and for good measure move v7 to port 8866 updating all clients and see how that goes

Martu

[sub]

Basically NextPVR v4 was the old Windows-only application.

NextPVR v5+ was a rewrite, and new multi-platform application, that used a web interface for configuration etc.

Unfortunately these are two entirely different applications, with different installer etc, so there was no inplace upgrade from the old v4 to newer generation v5 (or later) app.

You're best to uninstall, or at the very least disable, the old v4 application, because it can get confusing have both running.

Will just uninstalling 4.2.4 solve my issues/confusion?

Yes, should do. (and put v7 back to the default 8866 port)

[lemmy999]

Thanks for the information. I thought I had disabled the old service. I only see one service running and it is C:\Program Files\NextPVR\NextPVRService.exe which I assume is the 7.0.1.

Does 7.0.1 have anything that shows up in the system tray? It seems the 7.0.1 service is running and (I think) the 4.2.4 is not. But the 4.2.4 system tray is being loaded.

How do I make sure 4.2.4 is disabled?

[lemmy999]

I've confirmed both services are actually running (even though I only see one in the Windows Services list). When I set the Kodi NPVR add-on to port 8867, it shows the current video recording started by 7.0.1 on my computer, when I set it to port 8866, it shows the recording that I started using 4.2.4. I will just uninstall 4.2.4, but I still don't understand why I don't see two different services running in the Windows Services list.

[sub]

I will just uninstall 4.2.4, but I still don't understand why I don't see two different services running in the Windows Services list.

I'm sure they'd both be in there. They had slightly different names and might not be right next to each other in the list.

[mvallevand]

The names are different in v4 it is the NPVR Recording Service

Martin

[lemmy999]

The names are different in v4 it is the NPVR Recording Service

Martin

Thank you.  I had looked for NEXT and NPVR several times in that list and was about to do a screengrab to post and show that it wasn't in there, and then I saw it.    Thank you both and I apologize for the dumb questions!

[Bobins]

Starting NPVRTray.exe in the C:/Program Files/NextPVR directory gives you the V7 version of the System Tray NextPVR Status app.

Ray.

[mvallevand]

To manage start up apps I use msconfig (which on Win 11 leads me to Task Manager)  To stop the v4 version called NTray.exe disable or remove the exe and if NPVRTray.exe isn't showing add as @Bobins just noted.

Martin