tuner reconized as IPTV Device unknown how to scan for channels?

[Steve123X]

I believe the TV in the USA can't be used as a DVR per owners manuel.

I have read a little about the Dell PCs PCI ports are prioritized to only Dell componets is this true or false? maybe thats why the haugpage tuners weren't reconized as being in the PCI slots.
thanks

[bgowland]

PCIe is an industry standard - if that was the case then Dell would be in breach of standards.

As for which slot to use (as mentioned in your previous posts) if a card can fit then it should work as regardless of 'x', i.e., x1 x4 x8 x16, the larger slots physically support compatibility with the shorter cards. The shortest (in terms of number pins) are x1.

One issue could be the PCIe 'gen' as mentioned by the Hauppauge guy's reply to your email. I assumes he meant Revision though on the whole the different Revs relate to maximum bus speed / data transfer rate and I have no idea if that could be a problem. Depending on motherboard, updating to latest BIOS might be worth looking at.

Cheers,
Brian

[Bobins]

Without knowing exactly what motherboard you've got (or how old) a few thoughts come to mind.

Most modern motherboards have slots supporting a minimum of PCIe Gen 3 or Gen 4.  The latest high end boards support Gen 5.
Whilst they should, it's not guaranteed that they'll support PCIe cards built for PCIe Gen 1 or Gen 2.

Some modern lower-end motherboards disable certain PCIe slots (usually the smaller x1 or x4 slots) when particular SATA storage connections are populated. That detail is often buried in the motherboards user manual and not obvious from just looking at a motherboards specs.

Ray

[Steve123X]

Without knowing exactly what motherboard you've got (or how old) a few thoughts come to mind.
Most modern motherboards have slots supporting a minimum of PCIe Gen 3 or Gen 4.  The latest high end boards support Gen 5.
Whilst they should, it's not guaranteed that they'll support PCIe cards built for PCIe Gen 1 or Gen 2.
Some modern lower-end motherboards disable certain PCIe slots (usually the smaller x1 or x4 slots) when particular SATA storage connections are populated. That detail is often buried in the motherboards user manual and not obvious from just looking at a motherboards specs.
Ray
it's a Dell OptiPlex
not sure of model# to find mother board. I can look at sys. properties will win10 show MB? Thanks

https://www.ebay.com/itm/365360351238?va...p_homepage

[Bobins]

Looking at that ebay listing, I suspect it's a model 7040 given it's using an Intel Gen 6 I5 processor.

That would have 3 Pcie Gen 3 slots and 1 PCI slot.

The PCI slot would not be compatible with the Hauppage cards.

The Hauppauge cards should work in the PCIe slots which are Gen3 but there is no guarantee. The were designed for Windows Vista.

The Dell 7040 design is 8-10 years old and doesn't support Windows 11. It does have an early M2 NVME storage device but the Dell specs don't say if this shares data lanes with any of the PCIe slots. If it does, that would disable that PCIe slot.

I suspect there may be compatibility issues more than faulty hardware.

Ray.

[mvallevand]

My thought would be to take out the NVME drive to see if one Hauppauge tuner shows up in BIOS.

Martin

[Steve123X]

Looking at that ebay listing, I suspect it's a model 7040 given it's using an Intel Gen 6 I5 processor.

That would have 3 Pcie Gen 3 slots and 1 PCI slot.

The PCI slot would not be compatible with the Hauppage cards.

The Hauppauge cards should work in the PCIe slots which are Gen3 but there is no guarantee. The were designed for Windows Vista.

The Dell 7040 design is 8-10 years old and doesn't support Windows 11. It does have an early M2 NVME storage device but the Dell specs don't say if this shares data lanes with any of the PCIe slots. If it does, that would disable that PCIe slot.

I suspect there may be compatibility issues more than faulty hardware.

Ray.
please suggest a inexpensive windows10 PC that I can use my Haugpage tuners w/. thanks

[Steve123X]

My thought would be to take out the NVME drive to see if one Hauppauge tuner shows up in BIOS.

Martin

the NVME drive is the operating sys. drive or are you saying to copy the OS to like a SATA SSD for a OS drive? then try the haugpages?. thanks

[mvallevand]

Yes if you have a spare basic SATA drive I would see if that fixes the problem. If not maybe a LibreELEC boot USB with now NVMe installed would let you what is connected.

Martin

[Bobins]

Steve123x

Personally I build my PCs from individual pieces so tend to buy newer components.

It's not really possible to recommend a PC that will guarantee to run Gen 1 PCIe cards without actually trying one.
HP, Dell, Lenovo etc are generally good machines (especially in a work environment) but they do tend to run very manufacturer biased BIOS's.

The BIOS should detect it's a Gen 1 PCIe card and adjust accordingly but that doesn't seem to be happening in your case.

Given the age of the components, neither Dell nor Hauppage are going to be able to offer much help.

I fully appreciate the financial constraints of buying a modern PC but in some respects you are trying to fit a Cartwheel on a Ford Mustang :-)

Ray