Treeview Rollup

[ACTCMS]

I finally got around to having a look at the collection of goodies AutoRecord found for me over the last 4 weeks and I'm not sure if I've figured out how TreeView works...

I've got 8 programmes entitled "Later with Jools Holland". In TreeView mode (collapsed as far as possible) with both sorts set to Title, I have 7 'Top Level' entries - 6 of which have one programme each and 1 with two programmes. The two grouped programmes have identical descriptions - the descriptions on the others are all different. I would have expected 1 top level entry, expandable to show 8 programmes.

I switch my recording directory between 2 disks so I can defrag and in the db (RECORDING_SCHEDULE.filename) these 8 files are split between 2 different recording paths - but the programme names (apart from the datetimestamp) are identical...

Am I missing something?

Alex

Edit: I've attached a screenshot which also shows a datestamp miss-aligned

[UncleJohnsBand]

I finally got around to having a look at the collection of goodies AutoRecord found for me over the last 4 weeks and I'm not sure if I've figured out how TreeView works...

I've got 8 programmes entitled "Later with Jools Holland". In TreeView mode (collapsed as far as possible) with both sorts set to Title, I have 7 'Top Level' entries - 6 of which have one programme each and 1 with two programmes. The two grouped programmes have identical descriptions - the descriptions on the others are all different. I would have expected 1 top level entry, expandable to show 8 programmes.

I switch my recording directory between 2 disks so I can defrag and in the db (RECORDING_SCHEDULE.filename) these 8 files are split between 2 different recording paths - but the programme names (apart from the datetimestamp) are identical...

Am I missing something?

Alex

Edit: I've attached a screenshot which also shows a datestamp miss-aligned

The roll-up for treeview works by grouping identical shows together.....shows with the same title and sub-title will be grouped together.

Then then if the start date/time match as well you will only see one date/time entry followed by the separate channel entries for the programmes. If the start date/time don't match then you will see a date entry for each on as well as the channel info. You are seeing the later of these two behaviors.

As for the misaligned date in the one with the two entries....I'll have to look into what is going on there.

[ACTCMS]

The roll-up for treeview works by grouping identical shows together.....shows with the same title and sub-title will be grouped together.

So is 'Description' the sub-title?

[UncleJohnsBand]

So is 'Description' the sub-title?

I found a bug :o between how the tree control in the table-view version of manage recordings was being built and how the css version of manage recordings was building the tree control.

The treeview now works the same in table-view and treeview.

Switch over to manage.aspx and see if that is how you expected the treeview to work and let me know.

[ACTCMS]

I found a bug :o between how the tree control in the table-view version of manage recordings was being built and how the css version of manage recordings was building the tree control.

The treeview now works the same in table-view and treeview.

Switch over to manage.aspx and see if that is how you expected the treeview to work and let me know.

Manage.aspx is very close... when I expand the tree I see:

Later with Jools
...Description of first show in list
...Genre
...Datestamp of first show
.....Channel
.....control buttons
...Datestamp of second show.......

so I only see the description of the first show - for me it would be better if the datestamp/channel/control buttons section was on a subordinate level to the Description - that way duplicate shows (same Name and Description) would be grouped together and all unique Descriptions would be available

Alex

[UncleJohnsBand]

Manage.aspx is very close... when I expand the tree I see:

Later with Jools
...Description of first show in list
...Genre
...Datestamp of first show
.....Channel
.....control buttons
...Datestamp of second show.......

so I only see the description of the first show - for me it would be better if the datestamp/channel/control buttons section was on a subordinate level to the Description - that way duplicate shows (same Name and Description) would be grouped together and all unique Descriptions would be available

Alex

Give this beta a try.....it is a complete update so you will need to stop the recording service and then load.

There are a few other changes in this beta as well.....check the change log.

Let me know.

[ACTCMS]

Give this beta a try.....it is a complete update so you will need to stop the recording service and then load.

There are a few other changes in this beta as well.....check the change log.

Let me know.

That was quick...
Shows with the same Title now being grouped together correctly, but I still see an extra indent on "(ad: 11/2/2007) Subtitle: None Avaialble " (as previous screen shot) - I just noticed the typo in Avaialble...

Manage Recordings All/None options works exactly as I hoped - thanks.

The hover-over tag display in Music Library is great with mp3 files (I don't have any WMA files, so can't test)...

For some of the files I looked at, I don't see anything in 'Artists:', although the file is definitely tagged. This however could be a problem with my tags since my mp3 collection has been through a number of players/editors over the years - I'll investigate further.

One trivial problem with vertical scroll bar on Music Library tab - when I open a folder or sub-folder, scroll bar is missing (although mouse scroll wheel works fine) - if I click and hold a hyperlinked item, the scroll bar appears. On bottom level folders (containing files), scroll bar appears as soon as I hover over a button.

Once again, thanks for all your hard work on this most amazing utility...

Alex

[UncleJohnsBand]

That was quick...
Shows with the same Title now being grouped together correctly, but I still see an extra indent on "(ad: 11/2/2007) Subtitle: None Avaialble " (as previous screen shot) - I just noticed the typo in Avaialble...

Thanks...typo fixed.

There is now a break on description as well as subtitle....so if the subtitles are different you will see a new entry....if they are the same then the description is checked....if the description is different then there is a break.

What you are seeing is that the subtitles match as do the descriptions so they all fall under the one entry. If this is not the case let me know.

The original implementation of treeview last year worked (if I recall correctly) like you are talking about.....but there were complaints....and I had to agree....that there where just too many entries and it looked cluttered....so I added the roll-up of shows that have matching information.

The new addition here is the description is now checked.....so I think you will get what you are looking for....and we will still be consolidating space for programmes that have matching info.

Manage Recordings All/None options works exactly as I hoped - thanks.

Good news...thanks.

The hover-over tag display in Music Library is great with mp3 files (I don't have any WMA files, so can't test)...

Thanks...I have a few and it seems to be working.

For some of the files I looked at, I don't see anything in 'Artists:', although the file is definitely tagged. This however could be a problem with my tags since my mp3 collection has been through a number of players/editors over the years - I'll investigate further.

I implemented the same open-source tag library that Music Library 2 is using called TagLib#. It seems to be very stable, well supported and provides access to many tag types. I will probably start working on video's next.

My guess would be that there is something wrong with the tag in the file.....if you don't think that is the problem I can set you up an FTP account and you can send me the file....I can then look to see what is occurring. If the title is the only tag not showing but others are then it is more then likely just something with that tag....if nothing is showing you can check the EWA Log file....I do write out a log if an exception is thrown when accessing the tags in the file.

Also....did you see any performance hit with showing the tags? I haven't seen any slowdown on the response...or perhaps just a smidgen but not really noticeable.

[quote=ACTCMS]
One trivial problem with vertical scroll bar on Music Library tab - when I open a folder or sub-folder, scroll bar is missing (although mouse scroll wheel works fine) - if I click and hold a hyperlinked item, the scroll bar appears. On bottom level folders (containing files), scroll bar appears as soon as I hover over a button.

This is an annoyance....seems to be an IE thing only since Firefox does not behave this way. Periodically I try some things to see if I can get it to work correctly but nothing ever seems to work. It is on my "annoyance" list of things to continue to work on.

[quote=ACTCMS]
Once again, thanks for all your hard work on this most amazing utility...

Alex

No problem....it is my stress reliever from my real-life job of managing a web development team. I enjoy it and it keeps me close to technology.

[ACTCMS]

There is now a break on description as well as subtitle....so if the subtitles are different you will see a new entry....if they are the same then the description is checked....if the description is different then there is a break.

OK - since none of my shows ever have sub-titles, I'm probably getting a little confused with this one...

My guess would be that there is something wrong with the tag in the file.....

I suspect that too - as I said my library has been through several tag editors in its lifetime - I sometimes have problems with ML2 also, but I will have a closer look - I'll let you know what I find out... Also, I don't see any performance hit at all due to tag reading.

This is an annoyance....seems to be an IE thing only since Firefox does not behave this way. Periodically I try some things to see if I can get it to work correctly but nothing ever seems to work. It is on my "annoyance" list of things to continue to work on.

BTW It doesn't affect me at all - I use my scroll wheel - only mentioned it for completeness in case it would be an issue for others.

No problem....it is my stress reliever from my real-life job of managing a web development team. I enjoy it and it keeps me close to technology.

Ahh the words of a true programmer - nothing I enjoy better than developing a solid bit of code - I'm still not quite there yet with dotnet and c# to do anything really useful - but I will get there.

Alex

[ACTCMS]

My guess would be that there is something wrong with the tag in the file.....if you don't think that is the problem I can set you up an FTP account and you can send me the file....I can then look to see what is occurring. If the title is the only tag not showing but others are then it is more then likely just something with that tag....if nothing is showing you can check the EWA Log file....I do write out a log if an exception is thrown when accessing the tags in the file.

I've had a closer look at this... I've selected 3 mp3 files - one is fine - two don't display all tags correctly.

I've checked them with a HEX editor, the windows Properties Sheet and a couple of music players and they look fine.

I drilled down to a folder in Misic Library which contains mp3s where the album art is not displayed then had a look at the log (attached) but nothing jumps out...

If you've got time to take this further, I'd be happy to let you have the files.

Alex