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2009-07-17, 04:31 AM (This post was last modified: 2009-07-17, 11:42 AM by kendrak24.)
So. My cable provider has decided to shutdown the analogue services which finally forces me over to digital...

The digital service is subscription only, so, after reading a few threads here, and some googling, I've got a couple of questions before I rush ahead and buy stuff:

1. If I'll use the MultiDec plugins (and a card reader), do I need a tuner card with CI/CAM or is that just unnecessary?

2. I know the analogue cards convert the signal to mpg2 internally, but how does the digital cards work? I've read a lot about .ts files but that is the raw data, correct?

3. What would be the computer minimum requirements if I have two digital cards? Does it even matter much?

4. Any recommendations on what DVB-C tv-card to get? Since it's digital I'd imagine that the difference in image quality between the cheap and expensive cards is a bit less than for analogue cards?


OK, enough questions for now...

Any help is appreciated!
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2009-07-17, 04:42 AM
This might be helpful news http://forums.gbpvr.com/showpost.php?p=3...stcount=14

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2009-07-17, 11:48 AM (This post was last modified: 2009-07-17, 12:24 PM by kendrak24.)
Thanks for the help. So next release will be interesting as always!

Anyone have any info about the other questions (2,3,4)?
Need to know what's handled by the tv-card and what's handled by the computer. I.e. do I need a beefy machine...
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2009-07-17, 08:21 PM
kendrak24 Wrote:1. If I'll use the MultiDec plugins (and a card reader), do I need a tuner card with CI/CAM or is that just unnecessary?
MultiDec plugins dont need a tuner card with CI module. The next release will support some CI modules though for those that would prefer to use these instead of multidec plugins.

Quote:2. I know the analogue cards convert the signal to mpg2 internally, but how does the digital cards work? I've read a lot about .ts files but that is the raw data, correct?
In the case of digital tv, the broadcaster has already encode it to MPEG-2 (or H.264) prior to transmission, so that app is effectively just recording the already encoded broadcast.

Quote:3. What would be the computer minimum requirements if I have two digital cards? Does it even matter much?
For standard def channel it'd be about the same machine requirements as your analog cards in the past.
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2009-07-18, 12:21 AM
Thanks, sub!
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2009-08-05, 12:39 PM
kendrak24 Wrote:4. Any recommendations on what DVB-C tv-card to get? Since it's digital I'd imagine that the difference in image quality between the cheap and expensive cards is a bit less than for analogue cards?


Im not yet running gbpvr but I have a KNC ONE TV-Station DVB-C which does a good joob, Technisat cards are also often mentioned, dunno if they are good though. Make sure it can handle H.264 I guess it's necessary for HD. You also may require a CI-Slot.. which are not always included.
Hauppauge, are said to be great too!
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2009-08-10, 10:08 PM
This Azurewave/Twinhan DVB-C card has a CI....that will be supported in next GBPVR release, according to Subs post.
Scan files work with ComHem and Tele2Vision in Sweden.

Good price at:
http://www.liontech.se/PartDetail.aspx?q...ricerunner
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2010-01-23, 05:21 PM
I am having trouble finding some channels on ComHem (Stockholm).
I found a list of frequencies and QAM on another Forum (http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:R4o_...&ct=clnk):

The channels I am missing (perhaps a few more but these I miss):
BBC Lifestyle
BBC Knowledge
TV4 SciFi

Is it possible that the ini-file is missing some entry (when I look in the ini-file for ComHem BDA it only states QAM64 but looking in the list below it states QAM256 aswell. I am not quite sure what the difference is but i sure sounds like some settings are missing in the ini.

This is the Frequency-list but it is for Gothenburg, i do not know if there are any differences in Stockholm:

Code:
Freq      Symbol     Mod      Encrypted  Name
290000    6875000    64QAM    No         SVT Barn&Kunskap
290000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        SVT1
290000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        SVT1 talande text
290000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        SVT2
290000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        SVT2 talande text
290000    6875000    64QAM    No         SVT24
290000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV4

298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Animal Planet
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        BBC Entertainment
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Cartoon Network
298000    6875000    64QAM    No         Com Hem-kanalen
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Disney Channel
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        FTV
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Nickelodeon
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Playboy TV
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV1000 Drama
298000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Viasat Nature/Crime

306000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV Sport 1
306000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV Sport 2
306000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV Sport 3
306000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        SVT HD

314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        BBC World
314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Channel One Russia
314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Eurosport
314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Extreme Sports Channel
314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        MTV
314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Pink Plus
314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Showtime
314000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV3

322000    6875000    64QAM    No         Axess TV
322000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Disney XD
322000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Kanal 9
322000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Motors TV
322000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        National Geographic
322000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV4 Sport
322000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV8
322000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        ZTV

338000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ Comedy
338000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ Drama
338000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ First
338000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ Hits
338000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ Sport 1
338000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Comedy Central
338000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Star!

346000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        DR1
346000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        MTV2
346000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        NRK1
346000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Rai Uno
346000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TVE
346000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        VH-1
346000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        ZDF

354000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        HRT1
354000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Mezzo
354000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV Polonia
354000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV1000
354000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV1000 Action
354000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Viasat Motor

362000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CNN
362000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Eurosport 2
362000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Reality TV
362000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Travel Channel
362000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV1000 Plus One
362000    6875000    64QAM    No         TV6

370000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Al Jazeera English
370000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CNBC
370000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Hustler
370000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV5 Monde
370000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Viasat Golf
370000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Viasat History
370000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Viasat Sport

378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Disc. Channel
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        ESPN Classic
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Kanal 5
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV Nu
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV4 Fakta
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV4 Film
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV4 Plus
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV400
378000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Viasat Explorer

386000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Disc. Science
386000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Disc. Travel&Living
386000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Disc. World
386000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Kanal 10
386000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Silver
386000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Sky News
386000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TCM

394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 1
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 10
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 11
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 2
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 3
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 4
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 5
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV 9
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV Sport 4
394000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        PPV Sport 5

402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Al Jazeera
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        ESPN America
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Fashion TV
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        MBC
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV Chile
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV1000 Classic
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV1000 Family
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV1000 Nordic
402000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Viasat Fotboll

418000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ Action
418000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ Sport 2
418000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        CANAL+ Sport Extra
418000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Playhouse Disney
418000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV4 Guld
418000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV4 Komedi
418000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TV7

434000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        National Geographic HD
434000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        TV1000 HD
434000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Viasat Hockey
434000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Viasat Sport HD

442000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        BBC HD
442000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Eurosport HD
442000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Nat Geo Wild
442000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        SF Kanalen
442000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Show TV

450000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        BBC Knowledge
450000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Rush HD
450000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        TV4 Science Fiction

458000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Canal 7
458000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        History Channel HD
458000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Irib 1

714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        ART Movies
714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Canal 24 Horas
714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Canal Estrellas
714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        France 2
714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Irinn
714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        LBC
714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        POLSAT 2 International
714000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Pro TV International

730000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        3SAT
730000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Duna TV
730000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        M2 Magyar TV
730000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Montenegro
730000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Rai Due
730000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        RTK

738000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        ERT
738000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Hayat
738000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        RTS-Sat
738000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        Silver HD
738000    6875000    64QAM    Yes        TRT Türk

746000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        BBC Lifestyle
746000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        CANAL+ Film HD
746000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Disc. HD
746000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        Yacht & Sail

786000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        CANAL+ Sport HD
786000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        OBN
786000    6875000    256QAM   Yes        TV4 HD

I am using two FloppyDTV with CI and all channels are working, only those I cannot find during scan. Tried a Manual scan with Freq: 450000 Mod: 6875000 QAM: 256

Then it found several TV4 SciFi but nothing else on that Frequency.
Would really like to find these channels (my TV can find them OK so they do exist).
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2010-01-23, 08:06 PM
I tried changing the .ini-file and managed to scan a some more channels. But not all of them. I attach the config.exe.log and my ini-file.

I do not know how the ini-file works, therefore I just added increments to the s-numbering in the file. But at least BBC Lifestyle is still missing...
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2010-01-23, 08:40 PM
What frequency are the channels you're missing? I'll look in the logs to see if it scanned that frequency, and check if it locked a signal.
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