EPG for BBC HD DVBT2

[fuzzweed]

Just put in a new blackgold 3620 DVBT2 tuner to have a go at OTA HD. Battled through a few teething troubles and got it basically working, but I'm not getting any EPG data for the HD channels. I have no prior experience with HD in the UK - is the EPG missing from the broadcast stream for these channels or is it a NPVR / Blackgold / Driver / something else issue?

Does the EPG data live on the same frequency as the channel it relates to? I can see it scanning the HD frequencies in teh logs, but only finding date for a few unrelated channels.

[fuzzweed]

Or another way round would be to ask; Is there a way to copy the SD EPG data onto the HD channel, and if so , how to get NPVR to use the SD EPG data for searches / recurring recordings, but only view or record the HD channels?

[johnsonx42]

I think the EPG on the HD channels is encrypted. I think you have to use EPGCollector to pull down the broadcast epg into an XMLTV file, then point the channels in NVPR to the correct channels in the XMLTV data. I think.

[Zeb]

I believe johnsonx42 is right. Here's a thread: http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...D-channels

It's possible to "map" an HD channel to the listings for an equivalent SD channel via Settings->Channels->(select a channel)->Details using XMLTV EPG sources, but I'm not sure about OTA DVB listings.

[fuzzweed]

Marvellous. Will look into it. Thanks.
Why are the HD EPGs encrypted? What devious thoughts are going through the minds of the broadcasters?

[fuzzweed]

Well that was fairly painless. thanks for the pointers.

[mvallevand]

Maybe it isn't encrypted, maybe it is MHEG format which sub doesn't support?

Martin

[Lao Pan]

With NPVR 2.6.2 and all the latest patches the OTA HD epg works - Sub now has the Hofman decoding built in.

BUT I believe there could be a driver problem with Blackgold Bgt3650 cards and 2.6.2 - The 3620 may be OK

[fuzzweed]

yeah, had some weird problems with the 9x beta Blackgold drivers, but 8x seem fine.

[martint123]

Maybe it isn't encrypted, maybe it is MHEG format which sub doesn't support?

Not well encrypted, more like obfuscated, I think the original intention was to only allow STB makers who supported DRM for HD to be able to get the EPG

http://www.zdnet.com/bbc-hd-freeview-enc...010013808/

With NPVR 2.6.2 and all the latest patches the OTA HD epg works - Sub now has the Hofman decoding built in.

Well blow me down, I must read the update notes better!.