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Missing a channel

Missing a channel
jm7
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2014-02-09, 05:15 PM
NPVR finds most of the channels I am interested in, but not ATSC physical channel 8 Digital sub channels 1, 2, and 3. It also does not find NTSC channel 8 (but I really don't care). The TV that is on the same cable does see 8.1, 8.2, and 8.3. No channels are found below physical channel 10. The Tuner is a HaupPage WinTv-2250 (8851). I found the thread that indicated that I should delete the 8851 portion of the devices configuration XML file. That allowed the NPVR to find all except this one channel that I am interested in.

I expect there is more information that would be useful to help debug, but, I don't know what it is.
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2014-02-09, 05:43 PM
Posting logs would be good ... see post 2 in http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post464832
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2014-02-09, 06:37 PM (This post was last modified: 2014-02-09, 06:41 PM by jm7.)
Graham Wrote:Posting logs would be good ... see post 2 in http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post464832

I installed the update and the problem is still occurring. I tried adding the logs, and ran into a message about them being too large. I am attempting to attach a zip.
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2014-02-09, 06:43 PM (This post was last modified: 2014-02-09, 06:52 PM by jm7.)
OK, Manage Uploads does not seem to work. Using Chrome.
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2014-02-09, 06:51 PM
OK. IE worked. I have now attached the files.
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2014-02-09, 08:49 PM
Code:
2014-02-09 13:18:19.551    [DEBUG][1]    locked=0, present=0, strength=80, quality=6   (took 31ms to check)
Your tuner isn't seeing any signal on physical channel 8, so it's not delivering any data. Nothing in NPVR can do anything about this. First question is are you 100% certain you mean physical channel 8 and not logical channel 8?
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main client: NextPVR 5.0.7 Desktop Client; LG 50UH5500 WebOS 3.0 TV
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2014-02-09, 09:03 PM
johnsonx42 Wrote:
Code:
2014-02-09 13:18:19.551    [DEBUG][1]    locked=0, present=0, strength=80, quality=6   (took 31ms to check)
Your tuner isn't seeing any signal on physical channel 8, so it's not delivering any data. Nothing in NPVR can do anything about this. First question is are you 100% certain you mean physical channel 8 and not logical channel 8?

It is both.

From Antenna Web:


RF Channel 8
Redacted direction and range information as it pinpoints my house.
A Medium Directional Antenna is recommended to receive this station. Look for the CEA-certified Red mark on the antenna's box.

WGTV-DT1 8.1
WGTV-DT2 8.2
WGTV-DT3 8.3
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2014-02-10, 12:56 AM
What atsc antenna are you using? A lot of the "digital" ones aren't very good for low and mid band vhf.

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2014-02-10, 01:10 AM
mvallevand Wrote:What atsc antenna are you using? A lot of the "digital" ones aren't very good for low and mid band vhf.

Martin

An old style rake that I bought before the digital switch. Moderately directional. Moderate gain. Good signal from 2 trough about 70

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The TV on the same antenna has no problem with channel 8...
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2014-02-10, 03:49 AM
mvallevand Wrote:What atsc antenna are you using? A lot of the "digital" ones aren't very good for low and mid band vhf.
true, that's why many broadcasters have abandoned VHF-Lo, and hence why I created the "ATSC 7-51" tuning file that sub includes. Here the old VHF-Lo stations 2, 4, & 5 switched to UHF channels at the digital switch-over, while the VHF-Hi stations 7, 9, 11, & 13 stayed on their traditional channels (though they all used various UHF channels for their digital broadcasts during the transition/test period).

jm7 Wrote:An old style rake that I bought before the digital switch. Moderately directional. Moderate gain. Good signal from 2 trough about 70

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The TV on the same antenna has no problem with channel 8...
TV's do tend to have more sensitive tuners than PC tuner cards. You might try an amplifier near the antenna if you don't have one already. However your tuner is reporting nothing at all for that channel; the Strength=80, Quality=6 is what it reports for every empty channel.
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