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Blinking Samsungs
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#11
2015-05-07, 06:38 PM
I've just had some info back from Samsung. Apparently this TV (a 2014 model) only (officially)supports FHD at up to 30FPS. The recordings from NextPVR are straight off BBC HD and appear to be FHD at 50FPS. That being the case, I don't understand how a) it plays it at all - never mind the odd drop out or b) how I can watch BBC HD OTA without any dropouts at all.

Do the BBC really broadcast at 50fps at 1920x1080?

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#12
2015-05-07, 07:28 PM
yeah i gave up on my samsung tv npvr app and have got raspberry pis instead way batter playback and skipping.
its shame because fred did such a great job with the app samsung have let it down with their crap software
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2015-05-07, 08:44 PM
I'm more than a little puzzled why the TV can play BBC HD at 1920x1080 50fps direct from the freeview tuner, but cant successfully do the same from the network or a usb stick. Also why should 2 apparently lower spec TV's be able to cope with the same file perfectly well. I've asked Samsung to explain, but don't hold out much hope.

Martin, I presume your TV's also handle FHD content OK even though they cant play my sample.

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2015-05-07, 08:49 PM (This post was last modified: 2015-05-07, 08:56 PM by trummel.)
stustunz Wrote:yeah i gave up on my samsung tv npvr app and have got raspberry pis instead

I've got a Raspberry, but unfortunately, WAF precludes XBMC/Kodi as an option. She can't cope with the variations in the user interface/remotes.

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2015-05-07, 09:10 PM
trummel Wrote:Do the BBC really broadcast at 50fps at 1920x1080?

Not when I just had a look a moment ago DVB-T2 and DVB-S2 both at 25fps on BBC-HD
and yes, my TV displays broadcast HD no problem.

DVB-T2
Code:
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : \\HP-1\gbpvr\Election 2015\Election 2015_20150507_21550700.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 11.0 MiB
Duration                                 : 15s 505ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 5 921 Kbps

Video
ID                                       : 6601 (0x19C9)
Menu ID                                  : 17540 (0x4484)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=8, N=24
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 15s 200ms
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : MBAFF
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Color range                              : Limited

Audio
ID                                       : 6602 (0x19CA)
Menu ID                                  : 17540 (0x4484)
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Muxing mode                              : LATM
Codec ID                                 : 17
Duration                                 : 15s 509ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -1s 113ms
Language                                 : English
descriptor_tag_extension                 : 6

Text
ID                                       : 6605 (0x19CD)
Menu ID                                  : 17540 (0x4484)
Format                                   : DVB Subtitle
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 14s 490ms
Delay relative to video                  : 1s 491ms
Language                                 : English

Menu
ID                                       : 6600 (0x19C8)
Menu ID                                  : 17540 (0x4484)
Duration                                 : 15s 505ms
List                                     : 6601 (0x19C9) (AVC) / 6602 (0x19CA) (AAC, English) / 6605 (0x19CD) (DVB Subtitle, English) / 6650 (0x19FA) () / 7302 (0x1C86) ()
Language                                 :  / English / English

DVB-S2
Code:
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : \\PVRNEW\gbpvrdata\Election 2015\Election 2015_20150507_21550600.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 4.00 MiB
Duration                                 : 5s 810ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 5 747 Kbps

Video
ID                                       : 5400 (0x1518)
Menu ID                                  : 6941 (0x1B1D)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 2s 920ms
Bit rate                                 : 5 010 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : MBAFF
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.097
Stream size                              : 1.74 MiB (44%)
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Color range                              : Limited

Audio #1
ID                                       : 5401 (0x1519)
Menu ID                                  : 6941 (0x1B1D)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 3s 744ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -1s 87ms
Stream size                              : 87.8 KiB (2%)
Language                                 : English

Audio #2
ID                                       : 5402 (0x151A)
Menu ID                                  : 6941 (0x1B1D)
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 2
Codec ID                                 : 3
Duration                                 : 3s 744ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -1s 71ms
Stream size                              : 117 KiB (3%)
Language                                 : nar

Text #1
ID                                       : 5403 (0x151B)-888
Menu ID                                  : 6941 (0x1B1D)
Format                                   : Teletext
Language                                 : English

Text #2
ID                                       : 5404 (0x151C)
Menu ID                                  : 6941 (0x1B1D)
Format                                   : DVB Subtitle
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 3s 850ms
Delay relative to video                  : 1s 418ms
Language                                 : English

Menu
ID                                       : 260 (0x104)
Menu ID                                  : 6941 (0x1B1D)
Duration                                 : 5s 810ms
List                                     : 5400 (0x1518) (AVC) / 5402 (0x151A) (MPEG Audio, nar) / 5403 (0x151B) () / 3846 (0xF06) () / 3847 (0xF07) () / 3849 (0xF09) () / 5404 (0x151C) (DVB Subtitle, English) / 3841 (0xF01) () / 3842 (0xF02) () / 3843 (0xF03) () / 3844 (0xF04) () / 2321 (0x911) () / 2322 (0x912) () / 5401 (0x1519) (AC-3, English) / 2329 (0x919) () / 2330 (0x91A) ()
Language                                 :  / nar /  /  /  /  / English /  /  /  /  /  /  / English
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#16
2015-05-07, 09:32 PM
My understanding is there BBC shows that use either/both of 1080i/50 to 1080p/25 http://www.bbc.co.uk/faqs/bbchd_channels_schedule

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2015-05-08, 12:46 AM
x-newa with web interface (might have name wrong)looks just like nextpvr and a universal remote programed to act like mce remote or just use samsung remote just like you are now with freds app if you edit advanced setting XML you can have it boot straight into nextpvr
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2015-05-08, 09:52 AM
I've just recorded a short sample from BBC-HD and sure enough it shows as 1920x10080 at 25fps. However the recordings I have that exhibit the 'Blink' show as 1980x1080 50fps. I don't have a tool that tells me if its interlaced or not. I guess that's the issue.

Is there an easy way to find out?

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2015-05-08, 09:55 AM
stustunz Wrote:x-newa with web interface (might have name wrong)looks just like nextpvr and a universal remote programed to act like mce remote or just use samsung remote just like you are now with freds app if you edit advanced setting XML you can have it boot straight into nextpvr

OK that would work. Especially if it works with the Samsungs HDMI-CEC. I will give it a go....

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2015-05-08, 10:21 AM
sure does i have a samsung tv setup using cec ,for best speed disable all the background services(weather fan art etc) and pvr stuff in kodi
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