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Win10 doesn't see NAS - can't set up to record to NAS

Win10 doesn't see NAS - can't set up to record to NAS
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2017-01-18, 05:31 PM
In October I was able to record programs to my NAS - that stopped working and I cannot configure NextPVR recordings to save there; it will only save to "USERS" on local machine. I get an error message from NextPVR when I try to use "\" to add the NAS to where to save recordings and cannot use 192.168.1.7 as an "edit" since this option isn't available under "network" (which doesn't see the NAS) and other "browse" options are all local machine. I haven't attached logs since recordings work to local machine; I just can't point NextPVR to the NAS.

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I have several computers running latest Windows 10 and a network attached storage device (WD MyCloudEX4100 NAS) connected to a router via CAT7 ethernet for my home network. I can map drives to the NAS and use other workarounds to connect to it, however, it does not show up in File Explorer. This is hampering my ability to save recordings from my HTPC to the NAS. WD support helped me set up links to the MyCloudEX4100 that enable me to r/w from all my computers but was unable to resolve the issue that File Manager doesn't see the NAS unless I open it via one of those links.

My HTPC connects to an outdoor antenna via a Hauppauge WinTV USB device and is running NextPVR to access a channel directory, launch and retrieve recordings. [I run a PLEX server to organize media and Kodi as my front end.] When originally set up, I was able to configure NextPVR to store recordings to the NAS, however, this stopped working and because Win10 isn't seeing the NAS, I have been unable to resume saving recordings to it; I can only get them to save to USERS on the local PC which has limited storage capacity (.5 TB) while the NAS has 24 TB.

The "Win10 can't see NAS" issue shows up in multiple forums; I found a "fix" in one (below) but step 3 won't execute.
"Can't see NAS drives in your network on Windows 10? Here is the solution:
1/ run cmd as admin
2/ sc.exe config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/nsi
3/ sc.exe config mrxsmb20 start= disabled
Restart and you are done!"

I am hoping that this posting will help me resolve this issue. Thank you in advance for any leads you can send my way.
Bob
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2017-01-18, 06:47 PM (This post was last modified: 2017-01-18, 06:55 PM by mvallevand.)
You danced around this before http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...TV8-Cannot so the basic triage is the same. Note that you can't always map drives and also access them through the browser since that can corrupt caching.

To map by IP you edit config.xml manually. To test if you can see your shares by IP type

net view 192.168.1.7

you can also see if you have other maps by hostname ie

net view MyCloudEX4100

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2017-01-18, 10:43 PM
Martin,
Thank you once again for your response and assistance. Yes, I reviewed the prior "dance" related to this issue but am bumping into the following problem: once again I go to settings > recordings HOWEVER when I click to edit the current "default" entry (the mapped drive to the NAS) and enter "\\mycloudex4100\NextPVR_TV_Recordings" I cannot get past the first "" due to the error message that this character is not allowed. The prior posting does not include how to overcome this obstacle.
As for how to "map by IP edit config.xml" I'm afraid I don't quite get how to accomplish the editing; while I am making painful progress gaining more knowledge/expertise, it does seem to be a case of "2 steps forward and 1 step back." I found a config.xml listed for NPVR in users and inserted the following line under "Recording" - "<net view 192.168.1.7>
I saved and opened NPVR > settings > recording ... BUT when I edited the default recordings location and selected "192.168.1.7" from the list, it listed it as a subdirectory in the local machine, "C:\Users\Rosa&Bob\Desktop\192.168.1.7". What am I missing / getting wrong here?
thanks again for your assistance,
Bob
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2017-01-18, 11:03 PM (This post was last modified: 2017-01-19, 02:09 PM by mikeh49.)
You will find config.xml in Users\Public\NPVR
Double click on this file and it should open in Notepad
Hit ctrl-f and enter "directory" in the search box, hit Find
When it finds <Recording Directory> you can edit this line to use the IP address of your NAS rather than the name (My Cloud...), I'm not sure of the rest of the format that specifies the folder on the NAS, perhaps its xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\NextPVR_TV_ etc Someone else will help with that.

BTW, you'd make it easier on yourself (at least initially) to use short, 8 character folder names with no spaces so you don't get tangled up in the use of quotes around the names that contain spaces.

The net view items are commands that you enter into the command line window, Start>Search>cmd, select cmd.exe. You may have to right-click on it and run as administrator. Try it without first. Then, just type the command as martin shows.
HTPC: Optiplex 7010, HDHR Prime/Avermedia Duet A188, NPVR 4.2.5, Win10 Pro
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2017-01-19, 11:05 AM
bickertn Wrote:... enter "\\mycloudex4100\NextPVR_TV_Recordings" I cannot get past the first "" due to the error message that this character is not allowed.

As Mike says ... in some places you need double quotes round "folder names" that contain spaces ... in other places you do not need the double quotes. NextPVR ---> Settings --> Recordings is one place where you never need double quotes ... But I agree that you are best to create folders without spaces in the names and then you never need to use double quotes.

In short ... \\mycloudex4100\NextPVR_TV_Recordings ... does not contain any spaces and can be used without double quotes., including in NextPVR --> Settings --> Recordings.

NextPVR stores everything that you enter into NextPVR --> Settings into one or other of two files. npvr.db3 and config.xml. Both of these files are stored in C:\User\Public\NPVR.

npvr.db3 is a database that contains information that includes the list of channels, the list of devices together with information about recordings and EPG data. There is also the text file ... config.xml ... that stores many of the values set in Settings.

You can edit npvr.db3 ... if you feel brave ... using Notepad (make a backup of config.xml first) and edit the values directly but ... you should be able to do what you need using NextPVR --> Settings.
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2017-01-19, 01:32 PM
Graham Wrote:As Mike says ... in some places you need double quotes round "folder names" that contain spaces ... in other places you do not need the double quotes. NextPVR ---> Settings --> Recordings is one place where you never need double quotes ... But I agree that you are best to create folders without spaces in the names and then you never need to use double quotes.

To be clear for future reference you would never need to add the quotes to entries in config.xml the xml markup takes care of it. It is really only an issue from the command line.. Also the " is an invalid xml character anyway.

Martin
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