DVB/ATSC EPG issue

[Reddwarf]

Updating epg from dvn/atsc takes forever when you hve a lot og channels on different frequencies, In my case some og the epg is on frequencies where I don't have any usable channels, nevertheless I have to include at least one channel from that freq. in order to get any epg. Is there a way to make npve scan a frequency for epg without having a channel defined?

Ideally, I would like to see npvr do an initial scan, find out what frequencies gives more than two hours of epg and then only use those frequencies until a new "initial scan" is done. Sub, can you fix that?

[sub]

There is nothing built-in that'll do this for you.

Unfortuately the app has no way to tell if there is a single frequency that can carry the EPG for all channels. There is no standard with how this is done around the world, so the behaviour would offten need to be different on different networks. The scheme you define wouldn't work on some of those, since some carry greatly reduced listings for channles on other frequencies. (ie, might give a single day of listing on other frequency, and a week of listings on actual frequency).

[Reddwarf]

There is nothing built-in that'll do this for you.

Unfortuately the app has no way to tell if there is a single frequency that can carry the EPG for all channels. There is no standard with how this is done around the world, so the behaviour would offten need to be different on different networks. The scheme you define wouldn't work on some of those, since some carry greatly reduced listings for channles on other frequencies. (ie, might give a single day of listing on other frequency, and a week of listings on actual frequency).

Yeah I can see that here on the Thor satellite, but if you pick those frequencies tht provides more than two hours of epg you would be safe in any case and GREATLY reduce the scanning time.

[sub]

Yeah I can see that here on the Thor satellite, but if you pick those frequencies tht provides more than two hours of epg you would be safe in any case and GREATLY reduce the scanning time.

Yes, but if you did that - it'd be sub-optimal results on some networks. ie, you'd end up with less than a day of listings, when you would have got a week if it'd scanned the actual frequency. It might be fine on Thor, but be a step backward for other users.

[Reddwarf]

Yes, but if you did that - it'd be sub-optimal results on some networks. ie, you'd end up with less than a day of listings, when you would have got a week if it'd scanned the actual frequency. It might be fine on Thor, but be a step backward for other users.

Why?? I don't follo you. Any frequency with 2 hours or less is not worth canning??

[sub]

Because receiving "more than 2 hours" of listings is not the same as a week of listings, so doesn't indicate it's the best frequeny to use. Why use the wrong frequency and settle for a day of listings when you can get a week of listings on the actual frequency.

[Reddwarf]

Well ofcourse you would use that frequency instead, that would all be determined in the initial scan. I don't see a problem here at all....

[lost@c]

EPG Collector might be of use. After it scans it tells you which channels have no data, which are only "Now / Next" and which have "Series". I found with series had the most data. I don't use it anymore as the OTA EPG is excellent in NZ. (Lots of excellent things in NZ - like Sub) Might be worth a try

[Reddwarf]

EPG Collector might be of use. After it scans it tells you which channels have no data, which are only "Now / Next" and which have "Series". I found with series had the most data. I don't use it anymore as the OTA EPG is excellent in NZ. (Lots of excellent things in NZ - like Sub) Might be worth a try

I have tried to set up EPGCollector bet it just gives an exception and says "no frequencies to scan" when I select the Thor satellite. I have also tried DVBGuide but it does not collece any data from the frequencies that npvr gts the most data.

@Sub, the way I see it you do an "initial scan" every time and waste a lot of time scanning....

[mvallevand]

I have tried to set up EPGCollector bet it just gives an exception and says "no frequencies to scan" when I select the Thor satellite. I have also tried DVBGuide but it does not collece any data from the frequencies that npvr gts the most data..

Have you tried Schedules Direct if the time bothers you too much?

Martin