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Is v5 ready for prime time?

 
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Is v5 ready for prime time?
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2019-10-19, 12:20 AM
I'm ready to move to v5 Linux, but not at the expense of a lot of issues.  I really want off the MS platform, so is v5 Linux ready?  

Daryl
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2019-10-19, 12:32 AM
It's getting closer all the time. Is it gonna be perfect for you - who knows. Ultimately it'll come down to types of tuners you're using, and whether they have good drivers for Linux, and the client you're intending to use etc.
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2019-10-19, 12:46 AM
I am using analog, HDPVR 1212 and digital OTA comskipping etc all without any difficulties on linux. The major things like SD EPG downloads are working fine. Most of the problems I've seen are with people trying to replace a Windows PC with a RPi, a real server with real hard drives will be fine. A few weeks ago I was out of the country for 12 days and the server did everything it should while I was away.

I wouldn't try to use the Web Browser client for full time playback Kodi is probably the best bet.

What might be missing to help decide

- power management, you have to keep the server up 7/24
- live tv timeshifting in any client.
- the recording and functions that doesn't work in the browser should work in the UI clients (knewc or nlite)

Martin
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2019-10-19, 10:12 AM
(2019-10-19, 12:46 AM)mvallevand Wrote: I am using analog, HDPVR 1212 and digital OTA  comskipping etc all without any difficulties on linux.  The major things like SD EPG downloads are working fine.  Most of the problems I've seen are with people trying to replace a Windows PC with a RPi, a real server with real hard drives will be fine.  A few weeks ago I was out of the country for 12 days and the server did everything it should while I was away. 

I wouldn't try to use the Web Browser client for full time playback  Kodi is probably the best bet.

What might be missing to help decide

- power management, you have to keep the server up 7/24
- live tv timeshifting in any client.
- the recording and  functions that doesn't work in the browser should work in the UI clients (knewc or nlite)

Martin

Odd I used Web Browser client all day running LiveTV seem be working fine here in both Windows and Linux.
Don't you mean advance recording functions are not in browser at this time.
But there still a lot of things that still need to be add as well new nlite to match the new v5 Web UI and mobile device more build-in function option to make it useful.
For most part rosede it should be fine as but don't count on ATSC as an EPG Sources from your antenna if your in the US you have used Schedules Direct for now.
If have a spare harddrive you used it to install Linux and test it that way, I recommend disconnected all the other harddrive then install linux and make use of F11 after reconnect those harddrive up
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2019-10-20, 01:07 PM
My current setup is NPVR 4.x on a win7 machine, I use a HDHR prime as my tuner and RPi's for the display.   I see that SD has Linux drivers, but the drivers need to be compiled from source.  Not a fan of compiling from source, but that's not for this thread.

Is there a recommended Linux distribution to use?  I'm not much of a Debian/Ubuntu fan, but I am using it as I type this.  I personally prefer RHEL/CentOS/Fedora, but I'll use which ever is the preferred distribution for NPVR.

I do have extra drives sitting around and was thinking of just putting in a new drive, loading it up and running it, but it would be a lot of work if I have to switch back because of not streaming or dropped recordings etc...  

I just want to make sure that when I pull that trigger, NPVR 5.x is ready for use.  I love NPVR 4.  It works great, but I remember being very disappointed that it was Windows only installation.  This is not the only windows system that I have running,  but one more that I can eliminate from my environment.

Thanks

Daryl
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2019-10-20, 01:18 PM
(2019-10-20, 01:07 PM)rosede Wrote: My current setup is NPVR 4.x on a win7 machine, I use a HDHR prime as my tuner and RPi's for the display.   I see that SD has Linux drivers, but the drivers need to be compiled from source.  Not a fan of compiling from source, but that's not for this thread.

This is basically my exact setup as well. I don't believe that you should need any Linux drivers for the HDHR Prime since it is a network tuner. NextPVR v5 should just support it "out of the box".
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2019-10-20, 02:11 PM
(2019-10-20, 01:07 PM)rosede Wrote: My current setup is NPVR 4.x on a win7 machine, I use a HDHR prime as my tuner and RPi's for the display.   I see that SD has Linux drivers, but the drivers need to be compiled from source.  Not a fan of compiling from source, but that's not for this thread.

Is there a recommended Linux distribution to use?  I'm not much of a Debian/Ubuntu fan, but I am using it as I type this.  I personally prefer RHEL/CentOS/Fedora, but I'll use which ever is the preferred distribution for NPVR.

I do have extra drives sitting around and was thinking of just putting in a new drive, loading it up and running it, but it would be a lot of work if I have to switch back because of not streaming or dropped recordings etc...  

I just want to make sure that when I pull that trigger, NPVR 5.x is ready for use.  I love NPVR 4.  It works great, but I remember being very disappointed that it was Windows only installation.  This is not the only windows system that I have running,  but one more that I can eliminate from my environment.

Thanks

Daryl

BrettB don't need the config tool ?

Have you try out PoP! OS rosede ?

I think all you have do with Ubuntu based systems is
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install hdhomerun-config hdhomerun-config-gui

For DEB
based systems
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/view...26&t=65560

For RPM based systems
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/view...26&t=36175

You want ask on SD forum if are any easier install methods as thing change for the months and years
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=126
Or go to OS forum for that prefer distribution.
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2019-10-20, 02:30 PM
(2019-10-20, 02:11 PM)shspvr Wrote:
(2019-10-20, 01:07 PM)rosede Wrote: My current setup is NPVR 4.x on a win7 machine, I use a HDHR prime as my tuner and RPi's for the display.   I see that SD has Linux drivers, but the drivers need to be compiled from source.  Not a fan of compiling from source, but that's not for this thread.

Is there a recommended Linux distribution to use?  I'm not much of a Debian/Ubuntu fan, but I am using it as I type this.  I personally prefer RHEL/CentOS/Fedora, but I'll use which ever is the preferred distribution for NPVR.

I do have extra drives sitting around and was thinking of just putting in a new drive, loading it up and running it, but it would be a lot of work if I have to switch back because of not streaming or dropped recordings etc...  

I just want to make sure that when I pull that trigger, NPVR 5.x is ready for use.  I love NPVR 4.  It works great, but I remember being very disappointed that it was Windows only installation.  This is not the only windows system that I have running,  but one more that I can eliminate from my environment.

Thanks

Daryl

BrettB don't need the config tool ?

Have you try out PoP! OS rosede ?

I think all you have do with Ubuntu based systems is
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install hdhomerun-config hdhomerun-config-gui

For DEB
based systems
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/view...26&t=65560

For RPM based systems
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/view...26&t=36175

You want ask on SD forum if are any easier install methods as thing change for the months and years
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=126
Or go to OS forum for that prefer distribution.


I've never heard of pop os. Is this something that both SD and NPVR supports?  

I guess I could have answered my own earlier question.  It appears that NPVR is only supported on debian platforms.  I guess that I can install it from a zip file, but if it's already been setup for debian, then it makes most sense to run it on a debian/ubuntu machine.  Not a fan of that platform, but it's the direction most everything is moving, so I have to move with it as well.

That helps me make my decision on which platform to run it on.  I'll give it a try in an upcoming weekend and see how it works for me.

Thanks

Daryl
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2019-10-20, 02:33 PM
(2019-10-20, 02:30 PM)rosede Wrote:
(2019-10-20, 02:11 PM)shspvr Wrote:
(2019-10-20, 01:07 PM)rosede Wrote: My current setup is NPVR 4.x on a win7 machine, I use a HDHR prime as my tuner and RPi's for the display.   I see that SD has Linux drivers, but the drivers need to be compiled from source.  Not a fan of compiling from source, but that's not for this thread.

Is there a recommended Linux distribution to use?  I'm not much of a Debian/Ubuntu fan, but I am using it as I type this.  I personally prefer RHEL/CentOS/Fedora, but I'll use which ever is the preferred distribution for NPVR.

I do have extra drives sitting around and was thinking of just putting in a new drive, loading it up and running it, but it would be a lot of work if I have to switch back because of not streaming or dropped recordings etc...  

I just want to make sure that when I pull that trigger, NPVR 5.x is ready for use.  I love NPVR 4.  It works great, but I remember being very disappointed that it was Windows only installation.  This is not the only windows system that I have running,  but one more that I can eliminate from my environment.

Thanks

Daryl

BrettB don't need the config tool ?

Have you try out PoP! OS rosede ?

I think all you have do with Ubuntu based systems is
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install hdhomerun-config hdhomerun-config-gui

For DEB
based systems
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/view...26&t=65560

For RPM based systems
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/view...26&t=36175

You want ask on SD forum if are any easier install methods as thing change for the months and years
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=126
Or go to OS forum for that prefer distribution.


I've never heard of pop os. Is this something that both SD and NPVR supports?  

I guess I could have answered my own earlier question.  It appears that NPVR is only supported on debian platforms.  I guess that I can install it from a zip file, but if it's already been setup for debian, then it makes most sense to run it on a debian/ubuntu machine.  Not a fan of that platform, but it's the direction most everything is moving, so I have to move with it as well.

That helps me make my decision on which platform to run it on.  I'll give it a try in an upcoming weekend and see how it works for me.

Thanks

Daryl

I have NPVR on PoP! OS 19.04
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2019-10-20, 02:58 PM
(2019-10-20, 01:07 PM)rosede Wrote: Is there a recommended Linux distribution to use?  I'm not much of a Debian/Ubuntu fan, but I am using it as I type this.  I personally prefer RHEL/CentOS/Fedora, but I'll use which ever is the preferred distribution for NPVR.

Personally, I'd go with whichever distribution Martin is using because that is going to have the best support! Big Grin
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