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Advanced recording rules question
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2020-10-16, 02:57 AM
In my recurring recordings, I have several advanced recording rules, and it looks like these are causing NextPVR to schedule new recordings of episodes that I've already recorded (and watched and deleted).  Is there some way to prevent it from recording episodes that have been recorded previously?  I'd hope that something that can be added in the "Advanced" box, like "already_recorded = 'Y'", or something along those lines, but I'm not sure what the right keyword would be (assuming one even exists).  There don't seem to be any other settings for individual recordings to control this.

There's an option on the main settings page that says "Avoid duplicate recordings where possible", and I have that checked, but not sure if it addresses this issue.

This is using the Docker version, and controlling things through the web interface.

Thanks,
Doug
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2020-10-16, 03:01 AM
How long ago did you delete them? The avoid duplicates table gets cleaned based on time so I increase the default by many years to avoid this.

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2020-10-16, 03:42 AM
(2020-10-16, 02:57 AM)dsreyn Wrote: Is there some way to prevent it from recording episodes that have been recorded previously?
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There's an option on the main settings page that says "Avoid duplicate recordings where possible", and I have that checked, but not sure if it addresses this issue.
This option already addresses this. Recurring recordings will not schedule shows that you already have recorded, or have deleted in the last 90 days. (assuming you're using Schedules Direct for your guide there in the USA)
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2020-10-16, 10:06 AM
(2020-10-16, 03:42 AM)sub Wrote:
(2020-10-16, 02:57 AM)dsreyn Wrote: Is there some way to prevent it from recording episodes that have been recorded previously?
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There's an option on the main settings page that says "Avoid duplicate recordings where possible", and I have that checked, but not sure if it addresses this issue.
This option already addresses this. Recurring recordings will not schedule shows that you already have recorded, or have deleted in the last 90 days. (assuming you're using Schedules Direct for your guide there in the USA)

Yes, I'm using Schedules Direct.  It sounds like 90 days may be the issue.  Pretty sure that the original recordings were made in May (and probably deleted not long after that), so I must be beyond the 90 day window.

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2020-10-16, 12:12 PM
(2020-10-16, 03:01 AM)mvallevand Wrote: How long ago did you delete them?  The avoid duplicates table gets cleaned based on time so I increase the default by many years to avoid this.

Martin

I deleted these sometime in the May/June timeframe.  I'm a little unclear now though on how long the history persists.  From sub's reply, it sounds like it's only 90 days (at least, for those of us who use Schedules Direct).

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2020-10-16, 12:36 PM
(2020-10-16, 12:12 PM)dsreyn Wrote:
(2020-10-16, 03:01 AM)mvallevand Wrote: How long ago did you delete them?  The avoid duplicates table gets cleaned based on time so I increase the default by many years to avoid this.

Martin

I deleted these sometime in the May/June timeframe.  I'm a little unclear now though on how long the history persists.  From sub's reply, it sounds like it's only 90 days (at least, for those of us who use Schedules Direct).

Doug

There is a config.xml (looks like that wiki page needs a little love--maybe I can work on that) setting (<DeletionHistoryDays>90</DeletionHistoryDays>) which controls how long that data is saved. As sub said, the default is 90 days which works well for repeat airings right around the time of the original recording. But that doesn't work so well if you aren't using the "New" flag and want to avoid repeats of syndicated shows, summer repeats of fall episodes, etc. In those cases, you probably want to set DeletionHistoryDays to 365 or higher.
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2020-10-16, 12:36 PM
(2020-10-16, 12:12 PM)dsreyn Wrote: I deleted these sometime in the May/June timeframe.  I'm a little unclear now though on how long the history persists.  From sub's reply, it sounds like it's only 90 days (at least, for those of us who use Schedules Direct).

NextPVR has a deletion history table that stores the names of shows/episodes deleted reecently ... NextPVR does not record shows/episodes that are in the deletion history table ... The <DeletionHistoryDays> value in config.xml specifies the number of days that shows/episodes stay in the deletion history table ... https://github.com/sub3/NextPVR/wiki/components
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2020-10-16, 12:41 PM
(2020-10-16, 12:36 PM)BrettB Wrote: There is a config.xml ...

(2020-10-16, 12:36 PM)Graham Wrote: NextPVR has a deletion history

Typical ... you wait 25 minutes for a bus answer and then two come along together.
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2020-10-17, 02:37 AM
(2020-10-16, 12:41 PM)Graham Wrote:
(2020-10-16, 12:36 PM)BrettB Wrote: There is a config.xml ...

(2020-10-16, 12:36 PM)Graham Wrote: NextPVR has a deletion history

Typical ... you wait 25 minutes for a bus answer and then two come along together.

Well, two replies are certainly better than none.  Thanks for the help, guys.  I set DeletionHistoryDays to 5000; it didn't sound like there's any real negative to going with a fairly large value.

One other question.  If I delete recordings that get scheduled by a recurring recording rule, but delete them *before* they actually get recorded, does that also get saved as part of the history (in other words, preventing them from being flagged to record again)?

Thanks,
Doug
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2020-10-17, 02:38 AM
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