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Thumbnail support for .wtv and .avi files in version 5

 
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Thumbnail support for .wtv and .avi files in version 5
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2019-12-18, 09:16 AM (This post was last modified: 2019-12-18, 09:21 AM by Jimixter.)
Whilst I am currently a NextPVR v4 user, the following post has suggested that version 5 does not currently have thumbnail support for .wtv files originating from Windows Media Centre (WMC), which is why I am raising this wish-list item. Microsoft support for Windows 7 will cease next month, and so there may be a number of users who are looking to migrate their libraries across to NextPVR which is by far the best alternative in my opinion!

https://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?tid=60141

To get thumbnails to work for .wtv, .avi, etc. files in version 4, I have installed the TV Listings plug-in, which searches for image files of the same name in the same directory as the video files. I have then used the script in the above thread to generate thumbnail files in bulk once all the .wtv files have been imported to NextPVR. This is working well, but from later posts in the thread above it sounds as though neither this plug-in nor thumbnails for .wtv files will not be supported in version 5.

As a feature request/suggestion, and without yet being familiar with version 5 (apologies if this post is misguided), it would be great if NextPVR could automatically analyse any video files (.wtv, .avi, etc) added to the library during the import stage (asynchronously in the background), and generate its own thumbnails which it would then store within the database itself (rather than as separate files). This appears to be how WMC works. The thumbnails could then potentially be retrieved by other clients such as Kodi or Android apps, etc.

A number of other media centre platforms (Kodi, Plex, Media Portal 2) attempt to use third party scrapers to retrieve artwork and provide graphics, but in practice I found that all of these platforms were unsuccessful in retrieving artwork for the vast majority of our recorded TV library. The process relies on meticulous file naming and the sorting of files into sub-folders (also confirming to the same naming conventions), and potentially the use of additional third party tools such as Media Center Master to do it for you. This all became way too user intensive to set up and manage for our library of 1100+ files (3 TB), and in fact became impossible to implement as neither Kodi nor Media Portal 2 appeared to be able to differentiate between a one-off TV recording and a TV series, and would save one-off recordings into the "Films" folder instead and would use the wrong scraper! It was a frustrating experience.

Ideally, I would like to see continued support for .wtv thumbnails in version 5. If an automated process is not possible, it would be great to retain the ability to use image files in the same location as the video files, as the TV Listings plug-in uses today.


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2019-12-18, 01:27 PM
There are a few issues here,

- NextPVR doesn't support episode art in general through the recordings interface, it is series landscape, poster, and fanart related. Sub has already indicated he has plans to eventually do this.
- episode art API would need to be extended to many client types
- from the recordings interface streaming non ts file can be an issue, and configuration of playback for these file types can be problematic.

Your screen shot demonstrates to me episode art add zero benefit to some lists. In that one I'd much prefer higher quality series landscape to help quickly navigate to the show I want. Only in episode breakdowns do they make any sense and IMO they are so trivial that they just file blank space.

The biggest issue is time, NextPVR is a one man operation. Sub cannot compete with Kodi, Emby, Plex for video collectors and hoarders nor do I think he should try. I am sure the recording interface will continue to evolve and improve but if you want full rich meta data support I don't understand why you wouldn't use one of theses alternatives, leaving the TV scheduling, recording and playback side to NextPVR.

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2019-12-18, 04:29 PM
I'm at the very early stages of creating a new client for NextPVR. Episode specific artwork is on my wish list, and I'll try to accommodate it if I can. Ideally it'd source artwork from online sources, so that you get a meaningful screenshot, but would have the capability to fall back to extracting a video frame if a frame was not available online. Realistically I probably wont put the artwork in the database, to keep the size of the database down, and keep the performance high.
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