NPVR not selecting the correct tuner card

[WKleeven]

I have 2 tuner cards, 1 analogue, 1 dvb-c.

For some reason (probaly signal to weak) I can't receive 2 channels digital, only analogue.
I merged every other channel (from analogue and digital source).

When I start watching tv on a channel I can only receive analogue, of course this card is selected.
But if I then select another channel, which I can receive both analogue and digital the digital card isn't being used, although in settings the digital card is listed first (and I havent' checked "use reverse priority for live tv").

[imilne]

That's because changing channels between cards takes longer than a change between channels on the same card, so NPVR tries to keep you on the same card once it's active. It also means it doesn't have to rebuild the playback graph. If you really want to watch those channels on digital, then either remove them from the analogue tuner, or exit Live TV and reselect them from the TV Guide which will then use the digital tuner (if it's first in the list).

Iain

[WKleeven]

NPVR tries to keep you on the same card once it's active

I see. That sounds logical from timesaving view, but not logical when you look at the settings.
I would like it to handle it the way I configured it in settings. What that means in terms of delay is the consequence of the choice I made.

If you really want to watch those channels on digital, then either remove them from the analogue tuner, or exit Live TV and reselect them from the TV Guide which will then use the digital tuner (if it's first in the list).

I want to watch these 2 channels, so I am not going to delete them. And when I'm watching liveTV it's strange I have to go to to the TV Guide first to change the channel.
Probably a better way around the problem (I think it's a bug) is trying harder to get those channels digital. So I'll try an amplifier.

[sub]

GBPVR was exactly the same. When you change channels in live tv, it'll try to stick to the same tuner if it can, to help minimize the time required to change channels.

[johnsonx42]

well you can't really call it a bug if it's working as designed. I guess you can disagree with the design choice, but that doesn't make it a bug. besides, aren't you complaining about channel change speed in the very next thread?

[WKleeven]

well you can't really call it a bug if it's working as designed. I guess you can disagree with the design choice, but that doesn't make it a bug. besides, aren't you complaining about channel change speed in the very next thread?

You're wright. I should have written "I THOUGHT" not "I think", it was a bug.

And yes, I am "complaining" about channel change speed in the next thread.
But like I wrote in the post above:

I would like it to handle it the way I configured it in settings. What that means in terms of delay is the consequence of the choice I made.

If changing from analogue to digital card takes extra time, I would accept it as a consequence of not having those 2 channels digital.
But in general, I would prefer if channel change would be faster.

[johnsonx42]

I think you'll understand though that for most possible configurations, it's best for NPVR to try to keep using the same tuner on channel changes. most users would not want NPVR to constantly re-evaluate tuner priority on every channel change. I understand why you'd want it to do so, and I can imagine a variety of configurations were it would in fact be preferrable. Given that the way it works now is usually preferred, then the other way would have to be supported as an optional setting with exceptions in the channel changing code to support the optional logic; like many other things in NPVR, sub has to decide whether the possible upside for a minority of users is worth the time and effort it takes for him to implement it, as well as any possible support headaches that might come with such an implementation.

[WKleeven]

Probably both views have advantages and disadvantages. I don't know what most people would like. But it's indeed up to Sub to decide what he does with it.
At first I thought it was a bug, but I understand it's a deliberate choice. That's okay, I have to live with that.

But if no one says he wants something different, Sub will never know what most people want (he can still decide otherwise).
For me now, it's okay. I just have to find a way to get those 2 channels digital also.

[johnsonx42]

But if no one says he wants something different, Sub will never know what most people want (he can still decide otherwise).

yep, that's how it works. npvr isn't a democracy, but we do have a benevolent dictator who listens to his people of course a real dictator tells other people to do the work... sub gets the honor of deciding everything and then having to do all the work himself too.

and by the way, as you probably suspect, this isn't the first time this channel changing/tuner priority thing has come up. you're not the only one who's wished for it to work the other way.