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Supporting the OnAir USB HDTV GT - Issues

 
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Supporting the OnAir USB HDTV GT - Issues
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#151
2007-01-24, 03:18 AM
Niebs Wrote:I think it is a GE amp, I got it at Home Depot. I can get you more specifics tonight.

It is a GE - 22dB Video Signal Amplifier (AV23341), I'm sure there are better ones out there.
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#152
2007-01-24, 03:57 AM
thanks Niebs... I took a shot at it when I stopped by tonight... I had that one in my hands... should have held on to it.... darn first instinct...
I ended up getting an inline GE as well, digial ampliphier... that one does not work at all..

just to verify... before heading back...
can you sometime tune in 17-3 (TPT Kids), watch it for a bit, and see if you noticed any issues with stream? ... Thanks if you can... I get glitches every 10 secs to 2 minutes... where the Stream is Unstable .. my signal strength is anywhere from 29.89 to 32.8 dbs ... anytime it starts to drop below 32.. its interupted.. its really bad on this channel.. but other channels do it as well... kinda of a downer on the whole idea Sad

thanks again..
-Tim
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[b]System Specs:[/b]
AMD64 3000+ (1GB DDR 400 in DualChannel mode)
WinXP Service Pack 2 (most updates)
80Gb SeaGate SATA (boot), 160Gb (noname) SATA(video archives),
500Gb SeaGate SATA][ (Recordings)

[b]GBPVR:[/b]
   99.12 (All Survival Patches)
   (PVR150/OnAir GT USB, ZProcess, ShowBurn) - N/A at  moment
   Recording of DualTuner DishNetwork 622
   1 MVP (connected to 36" SDTV)
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#153
2007-01-24, 12:53 PM
SniperDude Wrote:I get glitches every 10 secs to 2 minutes... where the Stream is Unstable .. my signal strength is anywhere from 29.89 to 32.8 dbs ... anytime it starts to drop below 32.. its interupted.. its really bad on this channel.. but other channels do it as well... kinda of a downer on the whole idea Sad

I watched TPT Kids for a little while this morning through the On Air application, my signal strength was around 32 but I did see it drop down to 30 something a number of times but I did not notice any degradation in the picture.
v1.2.13 2.8 GHz Pentium D (dual core), 2GB, XP Pro SP3,TI Radeon x1300, Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250,
OnAir USB HDTV GT (QAM) Ver 3.00pl, Driver 3.0.0.1,
MS-DVR mux,
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2007-01-24, 02:24 PM
did you notice any glitch in sound ..?? .. if you could test one more thing for me.. using the onAir application.. there is a options with multiple tabs.. one of the tabs is Other .. in there can you check the box for "Display Stream Status on the screen"

then watch any channel for awhile.. and look to see if you see a "Stream Unstable" message... thats the one I have been getting, while noticing the glitches... (note, for me it usually occurs after 9 am ... more often, just when I want to start recording the shows for my son)

when that message flashes up on the screen, there is a glitch in the sound or frames are dropped for me... I had comcast out to boost the signal but they claimed everything was fine.. so I am wondering if my tuner is having difficulty.. but wanted to see if you have same problems as well...

thanks again..
Code:
[b]System Specs:[/b]
AMD64 3000+ (1GB DDR 400 in DualChannel mode)
WinXP Service Pack 2 (most updates)
80Gb SeaGate SATA (boot), 160Gb (noname) SATA(video archives),
500Gb SeaGate SATA][ (Recordings)

[b]GBPVR:[/b]
   99.12 (All Survival Patches)
   (PVR150/OnAir GT USB, ZProcess, ShowBurn) - N/A at  moment
   Recording of DualTuner DishNetwork 622
   1 MVP (connected to 36" SDTV)
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2007-01-25, 03:13 AM
SniperDude Wrote:did you notice any glitch in sound ..?? .. if you could test one more thing for me.. using the onAir application.. there is a options with multiple tabs.. one of the tabs is Other .. in there can you check the box for "Display Stream Status on the screen"

then watch any channel for awhile.. and look to see if you see a "Stream Unstable" message... thats the one I have been getting, while noticing the glitches... (note, for me it usually occurs after 9 am ... more often, just when I want to start recording the shows for my son)

when that message flashes up on the screen, there is a glitch in the sound or frames are dropped for me... I had comcast out to boost the signal but they claimed everything was fine.. so I am wondering if my tuner is having difficulty.. but wanted to see if you have same problems as well...

thanks again..
My option is named something like "Display Stream Status Error on the screen" which I enabled and watched it for about 10-15 minutes and never saw any messages or video or audio glitches. Anything else I can check?
v1.2.13 2.8 GHz Pentium D (dual core), 2GB, XP Pro SP3,TI Radeon x1300, Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250,
OnAir USB HDTV GT (QAM) Ver 3.00pl, Driver 3.0.0.1,
MS-DVR mux,
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#156
2007-01-25, 03:57 AM
Nope.. thanks ...
I purchased another amp tonight, made no difference...
I have Comcast bringing me thier tuner Sat.. will see if they have trouble..

(thanks for trying to help, its either my tuner or the cable system...) will persue those avenues..

Ryan Pertusio if your around... please chime in..

Thanks
-Tim
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2007-01-25, 09:28 PM (This post was last modified: 2007-01-25, 09:38 PM by rpertusio.)
Hello everyone,
I stopped receiving subscription notifications via email until just recently. (I think it was my fault, not the forum.) I just read all the pages that I missed, and here are my comments:

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bdg825 Wrote:it seems to work perfectly with GBPVR except that I have to run the supplied OnAir GT software before I can the GB-PVR to see any channels.
Ben (bdg825),
This is a known issue. I think this is a problem on our end-- something is not being 'set' to QAM mode appropriately. (This 'bug' affects TSReader too, so it isn't a GB-PVR problem.) If we find out what is happening, I'll let you know.

bdg825 Wrote:Additionally, the onair program shows a signal strength between 33 and 30 db depending on the channel.
The tuner's minimum is 31dB for 256QAM channels.

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sub Wrote:I think the TSReader app can record them, but I'm not 100% it supports QAM.
sub (and others),
TSReader supports QAM on the OnAir GT in recent versions. However, an easier way would be to give sub a 'debug' stream from the OnAir software. Simply click [Add CH] in the channel manager, and choose the 'debug' option. It will create a 10 second clip of the transport stream.

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sub Wrote:P is the program number (some times referred to as service number or service id)
V is the video PID
A is the audio PID
PMT is the PMT PID
N is the name, and can be pretty much anything you want (not used for anything by the app).

Hopefully these details will be visible somewhere in the OnAir app.
sub (and others),
Users of the OnAir HDTV tuners would have to use TSReader to see the PIDs/PMT, etc.

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SniperDude Wrote:Nope.. thanks ...
I purchased another amp tonight, made no difference...
I have Comcast bringing me thier tuner Sat.. will see if they have trouble..

(thanks for trying to help, its either my tuner or the cable system...) will persue those avenues..

Ryan Pertusio if your around... please chime in..
Tim (SniperDude),
Do you have another computer to try it on? It could be software/hardware causing problems that manifest themselves in high-intensity operations (like viewing HD.)

Does the red light on the tuner 'flicker' when the glitches occur?

Do you have all the updated drivers for your computer? (Video card, chipset/USB, audio)?

Have you tried a Clean boot of XP?

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Thanks,
- Ryan Pertusio

AutumnWave Technical Support
OnAir Solution North America
http://www.autumnwave.com/
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#158
2007-01-25, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the info Ryan.
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2007-01-25, 09:58 PM
Ryan, I got your email... and I replied..

summed up... msinfo was sent, and yes I did try other machines, same similar results.
Code:
[b]System Specs:[/b]
AMD64 3000+ (1GB DDR 400 in DualChannel mode)
WinXP Service Pack 2 (most updates)
80Gb SeaGate SATA (boot), 160Gb (noname) SATA(video archives),
500Gb SeaGate SATA][ (Recordings)

[b]GBPVR:[/b]
   99.12 (All Survival Patches)
   (PVR150/OnAir GT USB, ZProcess, ShowBurn) - N/A at  moment
   Recording of DualTuner DishNetwork 622
   1 MVP (connected to 36" SDTV)
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2007-01-25, 10:57 PM
One other note,
The OnAir HDTV Program (since v3.0) includes a 'Remote Control' program update. It allows you to use your OnAir remote with 3rd party programs. We've included a sample 'KeyMap' for GB-PVR in the download. We based it on the Wiki keyboard shortcuts.

Right-click the 'Remote control' program's 'green dot' on your screen, and choose 'Options'. You can set the GB-PVR remote control KeyMap there. Additionally, you can modify it to suit your needs.

Thanks,
- Ryan Pertusio

AutumnWave Technical Support
OnAir Solution North America
http://www.autumnwave.com/
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