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Which card provides a good tv-out?

 
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Which card provides a good tv-out?
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2006-08-01, 06:45 AM
Stargrove1 Wrote:Is it possible at all to set a resolution of 720x576 under a windows system? AFAIK there are only res like 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, etc.

Yes, but you need the latest or very-recent drivers, and refresh rate to be an exact multiple (or close multiple) of 50Hz for PAL (75Hz works but causes temporal motion issues).

Quote:Can anyone tell me some card modells which a not that cost intensive and easy to get. I think it should be an ati with the mentioned hardware deinterlacing and a good picture quality.

In the ATI range, the 9550 is minimum for hardware deinterlacing.

I also recommend the card have 128bit memory interface if you intend on upgrading to widescreen TV in the near future, but 64bit is sufficient for SDTV (standard CRT TV).

I recommend staying away from the ASUS 9550 because it has problems TV-out becoming disabled when the PC is rebooted.
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2006-08-01, 08:54 AM
csy Wrote:Yes, but you need the latest or very-recent drivers, and refresh rate to be an exact multiple (or close multiple) of 50Hz for PAL (75Hz works but causes temporal motion issues).



In the ATI range, the 9550 is minimum for hardware deinterlacing.

I also recommend the card have 128bit memory interface if you intend on upgrading to widescreen TV in the near future, but 64bit is sufficient for SDTV (standard CRT TV).

I recommend staying away from the ASUS 9550 because it has problems TV-out becoming disabled when the PC is rebooted.

I had a look on well known Internet auction site, I found some ati 9550 cards. They had all a tv-out, but on one site they wrote that it is s-video and I read here that the composite should be better. Is there a similar grafic card with composite tv-out?
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2006-08-01, 09:17 AM
Not sure where you are coming from, as S-video is higher quality than composite. S-video has luminance (light intensity) and chrominance (colour) separated, but composite combines them leading to luminance/chrominance crosstalk.

My ASUS 9550 outputs both s-video and separate composite, in the form of an S-video connector with additional centre-pin outputing composite signal via a supplied special adapter dongle.

Most mid/high-end video cards utilise a s-video connector, and some manufactures additionally provide dongle to break-out or adapt to composite.

You need to look around the various brands of 9550 cards (assuming that is what you want) and look for a brand that supplies a composite dongle with the card.
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2006-08-01, 09:23 AM
csy Wrote:Not sure where you are coming from, as S-video is higher quality than composite. S-video has luminance (light intensity) and chrominance (colour) separated, but composite combines them leading to luminance/chrominance crosstalk.

My ASUS 9550 outputs both s-video and separate composite, in the form of an S-video connector with additional centre-pin outputing composite signal via a supplied special adapter dongle.

Most mid/high-end video cards utilise a s-video connector, and some manufactures additionally provide dongle to break-out or adapt to composite.

You need to look around the various brands of 9550 cards (assuming that is what you want) and look for a brand that supplies a composite dongle with the card.

I'm coming from Germany, but I guess that I just remembered a wrong fact.

I will try to get such a card and test the tv-out.
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2006-08-01, 09:32 AM
Csy Wrote:Not sure where you are coming from
Stargrove1 Wrote:I'm coming from Germany,
LOL ... Stargrove1, "Not sure where you are coming from" is an expression which means "I'm not sure what you mean by that" (interpretation of S-Video capabilities etc. in this case).

Keine sorgen, meine Frau macht auch Die gleichen fehler ...

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2006-08-01, 09:58 AM
Lol Smile
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2006-08-01, 10:08 AM
jksmurf Wrote:LOL ... Stargrove1, "Not sure where you are coming from" is an expression which means "I'm not sure what you mean by that" (interpretation of S-Video capabilities etc. in this case).

Keine sorgen, meine Frau macht auch Die gleichen fehler ...

k.

Ok, but you can't deny that my english is better than Lothar Matthäus' Big Grin

Und meine Frau kann nicht kochen, aber was haben unsere Frauen damit zu tun?!? Aber wenn du schon deutsch kannst, kannst du mir vielleicht ohne kleinere Sprachbarriere bei meinem Problem helfen?

And allways look on the bright side of life!
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2006-08-01, 12:17 PM
Stargrove1 Wrote:Ok, but you can't deny that my english is better than Lothar Matthäus' Big Grin
True. it couldn't be worse..... :-)

Stargrove1 Wrote:Und meine Frau kann nicht kochen, aber was haben unsere Frauen damit zu tun?!?
ALLES, natürlich!Big Grin

Stargrove1 Wrote:Aber wenn du schon deutsch kannst, kannst du mir vielleicht ohne kleinere Sprachbarriere bei meinem Problem helfen?
Tja, Ich furchte ... leider nicht! Reden (mit meine Frau) ...gehts einigermassen, aber Schreiben ist eine Katastroph!

Look, csy clearly knows what he's talking about, he's done the research. You probably now just need to go away and read up on all the things he has pointed you to!

Cheers

k.

It's like that ad with the young german coastguard on watch, listening to a British ship relaying a message "we're sinking, we're sinking" ...<long pause before young german coastguard replies> ... "what ...are you sinking ...about"?
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2006-08-01, 12:39 PM
jksmurf Wrote:True. it couldn't be worse..... :-)

ALLES, natürlich!Big Grin


Tja, Ich furchte ... leider nicht! Reden (mit meine Frau) ...gehts einigermassen, aber Schreiben ist eine Katastroph!

Look, csy clearly knows what he's talking about, he's done the research. You probably now just need to go away and read up on all the things he has pointed you to!

Cheers

k.

It's like that ad with the young german coastguard on watch, listening to a British ship relaying a message "we're sinking, we're sinking" ...<long pause before young german coastguard replies> ... "what ...are you sinking ...about"?

Let me tell you that you're German is just as good as my english Wink

But in the difference to my english teacher, my "th" does not sound like a s Smile
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2006-08-01, 06:44 PM
Sapphire.
I bought a sapphire 9550 & it came with the little ATI s-video to composit adaptor.
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