NMT and MVP documentation

[McBainUK]

Agreed with the respect thing, what I'm asking for, in the first place, was some help.

Would you be prepared to answer some noob questions so I could create some wiki pages which are easy to follow and contain up to date and correct information.

Sub does this every day

I would also remove anything GB-PVR related, as this on no longer supported or available. Would this be ok?

[Jaggy]

I also agree with the respect thing & sorry for bringing it up again! I will now totally butt out of the wiki & leave you too it, good luck.

[steeb]

With all due respect Jaggy I do not think you should butt out of this unless that really is what you choose to do!

I believe that the whole MVP/NMT section has been due a re-think even during the GB-PVR days.

And pretty much it was you that carried this over onto the new NextPVR wiki.......

I have total respect for Martin's view and that any time available to him on dev may not be best placed writing the wiki up.

Total respect for Jaggy for actually getting these pages down in the first place on the new wiki.

I would go with McBainUK in removing anything GB-PVR related as that just serves to complicate things....

This is one area of the wiki I feel so strongly about because if it hadn't of been for sub's initial support for a thin client device (MVP) I would not have even found GB-PVR. If it had not been for Martin's MVPMC dongle I would not have set up my whole MC system around GB-PVR with MVP's. Then as we moved on and the NMT support came out, and then sub and Martin worked so hard to keep the MVP still useable with NextPVR... etc etc....

BUT I do think that these pages are a little confusing? It is toy out of the bag time? You get a new toy, you want to plug it in and for it to work. I do not personally believe that the MVP/NMT pages have ever provided that?!

If it helps McBainUK I now have at least one de-commissioned MVP gathering dust that I would be willing to send you at my cost so that you could plug it in and see what all the joy (and fuss is about!). Sorry won't send you a PCHA100 (they are all mine, mine, mine )

[Jaggy]

With all due respect Jaggy I do not think you should butt out of this unless that really is what you choose to do!

I think it is probably best at this stage before I say anything else to upset anyone.

I believe that the whole MVP/NMT section has been due a re-think even during the GB-PVR days.

Actually the MVP section in GB-PVR days was fine if you were (like me for years) just using the dongle sub included in the main install. The NMT setup has been very confusing right from the start & even with all the work I did on the wiki stayed confusing partly because things changing often & other advanced stuff wasn't in the stickies & I couldn't find it when I went searching in the forum to get it onto the wiki.

I have total respect for Martin's view and that any time available to him on dev may not be best placed writing the wiki up.

I was never suggesting he wrote the wiki pages. I was hoping that if he did any updates he could documented on the (already written wiki) instead of documenting them in a thread & then someone else having to transfer it onto the wiki. (this thought doesn't just apply to the NMT/MVP section it also applies to any new extender support in the future)

[steeb]

No point replying with quote from me, because I agree with you Jaggy. Hence I find myself in a very difficult situation that I am losing the steam for!

Anything you say is certainly not going to upset me but I do know that a 'rock the boat' may happen.

I hold my head in my hands (literally) that if the boat is rocked the wrong way then things can only get worse.

But I am fed up with one of the strongest points of NextPVR being held up by what I would call 'bloody mindedness'. There I said it. I hope that does not affect me and all future NextPVR users to lose out......

apologies all

steeb

[mvallevand]

Would you be prepared to answer some noob questions so I could create some wiki pages which are easy to follow and contain up to date and correct information.

Absolutely. I'm sorry that my contributions to the wiki (or lack thereof) always seem to generate such bad spirit and derail your threads but I do appreciate your patience. If the wiki ever is in a reasonable state I will be happy to keep the changelog and binary on the wiki, and would move from the mvpmc.org to the wiki as the source of files.

Sub does this every day

And so would I, if need be. The good news is that the pages are largely static and should be as easy to maintain as the NPVR web site.

Martin

[steeb]

It is obvious McBainUK that you are best placed in handling the MVP/NMT section of the wiki.

As I offered previously I can send you an MVP (all bits included) so you can see how it works.

I feel no bad spirit here at all, but may be that is just me? I believe the point I made was that someone who devotes so much spare time to coding something as brilliant as MVPMC and the NMT stuff should not have to deal with writing it up too?

But if that they would like their brilliance to be known then may be they need someone to help them make it more clear?

"Grow the Roses of Success"

I now also officially give up with trying to work out the MVP/NMT side of the wiki. It is too much hard work.

BUT the MVP/NMT support provided by Martin and NextPVR is absolutely brilliant. And, as usual I can't see why people don't know it.

cheers all

steeb

[Jaggy]

Absolutely. I'm sorry that my contributions to the wiki (or lack thereof) always seem to generate such bad spirit and derail your threads but I do appreciate your patience. If the wiki ever is in a reasonable state I will be happy to keep the changelog and binary on the wiki, and would move from the mvpmc.org to the wiki as the source of files. Martin

I always thought I was wasting my time (& there was a fair amount of it) doing the NMT wiki updates (more so for GB-PVR as I already said I mostly gave up by NextPVR) as I obviously never got it into a "reasonable state" as you were never willing to update it or add the often changing binaries to it. Oh well never mind I have many other things to do with my time & there are so many other users willing to do work on the wiki.

[Jaggy]

BUT the MVP/NMT support provided by Martin and NextPVR is absolutely brilliant. And, as usual I can't see why people don't know it.

cheers all, steeb

That I have to agree with 110%

[mvallevand]

"reasonable state"

Sorry for the wrongly chosen words and I wasn't inferring anything about what you have done, I was referring to the state post changes McBainUK makes. Once he has a template for the changelog and binaires I will be happy to make some additions.

Martin