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[sub]

I'm sorry, but I have to call bullshit on that one.

[jorm]

laugh.  I personally like java but that is what I get paid to do so I am sure I have a bias.  If I got a job that paid me to do C# I might like that more.  C# is so much like Java anyways.

You can write fast applications in java if you know what you are doing. Well maybe not GUI stuff. And you can write slow applications if you have no clue. I used to fight the same battle with C vs C++ people used to think that C++ was too slow too.

Realistically the reason why it should ideally be written in C# is just because the rest of the project is.  If java is faster or not doesnt really matter.

Jorm

[reven]

C# is java done right. java has some really cool things, the language was setup really really well, easy to learn, good oo language, just can be really slow, UI are kinda crap, C# is built by windows for windows, sure java is better if you using unix or something, but most people arent, and the people that are, will still think java is crap and love C++.

i use to love java, then i meet C#, we've had some good times together. and now all my courses at uni are using java (well one using c++ and opengl, but most are in java, , wankers!.

[Darx-starz]

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use to love java, then i meet C#, we've had some good times together. and now all my courses at uni are using java (well one using c++ and opengl, but most are in java, , wankers!.

[jorm]

The biggest complaint I have about sun with java is they should have come out with a compiler as well. So I do not have to use the damn virtual machine every time. Most places do not care about write once reuse everywhere. Also it is very easy to reverse engineer java classes so you can learn how people do things.

I have had 3 programming jobs 3 of which were on unix like systems. The only windows job I had (have) is actually in java since it predates C#.

[sub]

My day job is being a Java solutions architect, but it doesnt make me bias towards it. The Microsoft development tools are just so much better, and much more enjoyable to work with.

There is nothing significant in it speed-wise for either languages.

[colin]

Quote[/b] ]Most places do not care about write once reuse everywhere.

Thats because "most" places have not caught onto "open" systems. Java virtual machines are getting better with each release and version 5 (1.5) was a significant leap forward. You are not going to get assembler speeds. The common mistake people make about Java is, they believe its the one stop solution to all programming needs.

Quote[/b] ]C# is java done right

I would disagree with this. C# is Microsofts answer to Java because Sun would not allow them to make parts of Java specific to Windows boxes.

Quote[/b] ]The Microsoft development tools are just so much better

A personal choice really. Depending on how you start out programming will influence this,

Cheers,
Colin.

[jacoup]

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[jorm]

Another P2P option. Not open source but we can ask if they will support or support a command line or socket interface.


http://www.grouper.com/index.htm


Private networks, encryption etc....

[hitek146]

Quote[/b] (jacoup @ Mar. 11 2005,16:53)]yer tipstir is right, java bt is faster, than thee bt without java, thee reason for this has yee all programmers here know already this, yee mee just sign up to gbpvr today

I can't seem to find the option for this in Babelfish Translator...

Seriously, though, what was the last part of that?

Hitek