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TV Guide not populating

TV Guide not populating
Jim Dale
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#11
2015-08-03, 12:26 AM
I am also having the same issue ... although I've never gotten it to work, apparently because I started after 7/7/2015.
I have setup mc2xml (and the script, etc.) to create the EPG from Microsoft Legacy.

In answer to a question above (directed to jcharlesmith), I looked thru the xmltv.xml and the XML looks right ... and they are mostly future schedule.
Here's a classic example (sched for Tuesday at 6PM, I believe) ...
[COLOR="#0000FF"]
<programme start="20150804180000 -0500" stop="20150804183000 -0500" channel="I1038.272674189.microsoft.com">
[INDENT] <title lang="en">Ozzie and Harriet</title>
<category lang="en">Comedy</category>
<category lang="en">Series</category>
<episode-num system="ms_progid">1.SH007348560000</episode-num>
<episode-num system="dd_progid">SH00734856.0000</episode-num>[/INDENT] </programme>
[/COLOR]

In my NPVR/Script/UpdateEPG.bat file, I'm telling it to give me the next 168 hours, starting from 2 hours ago.
[COLOR="#0000FF"]
mc2xml -d 168 -s -2
[/COLOR]

And (as far as I can tell) that is working ... I looked at the XML it created in Notepad.
(The list includes about everything ... from Game of Thrones to Gilligan's Island ... from NFL Politics to Underwater Basketweaving.)

I can see the TV shows, dates, times, descriptions, etc. in there, but NextPVR cannot ... and I don't know why.
Something is apparently hidden in that XML that's telling NextPVR to look the other way, like it's not there.

At one point in my testing, however, I did (but no longer do) see a 'ghost' of it's presence in the EPG list.
For certain channels, the "no show detail" blocks would be offset --- out of line with the half-hour headers, just like a true EPG listing would typically be.
I assume that was because there was a program there (in the hidden EPG) that starts at an odd time.
(NPVR just couldn't tell me any more.)
But at that time, I realized that all my dates were in the past because I was missing the minus sign (-) on the number of hours offset (-s -2).
I guess if you don't give it a plus nor minus sign, then mc2xml treats it as an 'absolute hour', perhaps starting from the oldest history it has to refer to.
(They all had dates from about mid-July.)
I've since corrected that (and now get future dates).

So ... has anyone who've been successful in getting their XMLTV from Microsoft Legacy working in the past been able to get it to still get to work ... since 7/7/2015?
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#12
2015-08-03, 12:37 AM
Jim Dale Wrote:In my NPVR/Script/UpdateEPG.bat file, I'm telling it to give me the next 168 hours, starting from 2 hours ago.
[COLOR="#0000FF"]
mc2xml -d 168 -s -2
[/COLOR]

And (as far as I can tell) that is working ... I looked at the XML it created in Notepad.
(The list includes about everything ... from Game of Thrones to Gilligan's Island ... from NFL Politics to Underwater Basketweaving.)
Not sure if that is literally what you have in your UpdateEPG.bat. You'd probably need to specify an explicit path to the executable to mc2xml.exe for it to work from the service when it runs each night.

Quote:I can see the TV shows, dates, times, descriptions, etc. in there, but NextPVR cannot ... and I don't know why.
Something is apparently hidden in that XML that's telling NextPVR to look the other way, like it's not there.
If you can hit 'update epg', then post the npvr.log, I can check what's happening.
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2015-08-03, 01:51 AM
sub Wrote:Not sure if that is literally what you have in your UpdateEPG.bat. You'd probably need to specify an explicit path to the executable to mc2xml.exe for it to work from the service when it runs each night.
Yes ... it does that ... plus I have it looping (15 max, with 30 second wait) if it gets an RC 2 because of their system being too tied up.
(Don't worry ... It works ... I'm novice to NextPVR, etc. but I've been a computer programmer for over a third of a century ... in too many languages to count ... but mostly mainframe online.)
By the way, I saw some things you may want to look at ...
On the NextPVR page that describes how to setup mc2xml for NextPVR (http://www.nextpvr.com/nwiki/pmwiki.php?....EPGMC2XML) ... there's a couple things you should be aware of.
How best can I send those to you (sub) without throwing this topic off topic?

sub Wrote:If you can hit 'update epg', then post the npvr.log, I can check what's happening.
Attached, plus the log from earlier when it's actually building the EPG (since it doesn't need to rebuild it on the latest one), plus the actual xmltv.xml it created, plus the UpdateEPG.bat file.
Thanks.
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2015-08-03, 02:06 AM
Jim Dale Wrote:Attached, plus the log from earlier when it's actually building the EPG (since it doesn't need to rebuild it on the latest one), plus the actual xmltv.xml it created, plus the UpdateEPG.bat file.
Your xmltv file is the problem.

The majority of the channels contained in your xmltv have no listings at all. A small subset of them have listings, and those listings are shown in NextPVR. None of the low channel numbers have listings, start press 'up' in the TV guide (so it wraps to the end of the list), you'll see some of the last channels have listings (like 1077 KTMDD).
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2015-08-03, 02:12 AM
You have 658 channels identified in your xmltv file, but only 53 of those channels have any listings.
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2015-08-03, 04:21 AM
sub Wrote:You have 658 channels identified in your xmltv file, but only 53 of those channels have any listings.
Sub, I'm sure you're right about what's on the list, but when I scroll thru 100% of the channels, I only get '(no show details)' everywhere.
Same thing when I pull it up in Kodi.
I don't remember the wording, but Kodi tells me that nothing was found.

Is there possibly some indicator that Microsoft is putting in that file (since 7/7) - or the way its XML is organized - which now makes it n/a or indecipherable to NextPVR?

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2015-08-03, 04:52 AM
Jim Dale Wrote:Is there possibly some indicator that Microsoft is putting in that file (since 7/7) - or the way its XML is organized - which now makes it n/a or indecipherable to NextPVR?
Nah, it's nothing like that. The file is perfectly usable by NextPVR, and it's pulling in the listings.

It's a much more simple explanation. The reason you're not seeing any listings is almost certainly because the copy-freely channels imported from your DCR-2650 are not those 53 of 658 in your xmltv file that actually had listings.
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2015-08-03, 04:57 AM
Here is the list of channels with listings in that file. None of the others have listings.

Quote:2015-08-03 16:48:47.441 [INFO][6] -channel: '944 KDHULD' has 296 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.441 [INFO][6] -channel: '951 KUHTDT4' has 220 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.441 [INFO][6] -channel: '957 KTREDT3' has 236 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.441 [INFO][6] -channel: '962 KVCTDT2' has 191 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.441 [INFO][6] -channel: '971 KBMTDT5' has 192 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.442 [INFO][6] -channel: '975 KAVUDT2' has 163 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.442 [INFO][6] -channel: '976 KAVUDT3' has 195 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.442 [INFO][6] -channel: '984 KVQTLD' has 334 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '988 KUVMLD2' has 127 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '993 KUVMLD5' has 327 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '994 KUVMLD6' has 248 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1000 KETHDT2' has 296 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1001 KETHDT3' has 205 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1002 KETHDT4' has 294 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1005 KVCTLD' has 245 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1006 KVCTLD2' has 191 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1008 KVCTLD3' has 103 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1013 KUGBCD' has 311 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1016 KUGBCD2' has 281 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1018 KUGBCD3' has 210 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1019 KYLEDT3' has 231 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1020 KUGBCD5' has 338 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1021 KUGBCD6' has 246 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1022 KFXLLD' has 259 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1023 KCVHLD' has 217 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1030 KITUDT2' has 296 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1032 KITUDT3' has 205 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1033 KITUDT4' has 294 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1034 KITUDT5' has 332 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1036 KUVMCD2' has 338 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1037 KUVMCD3' has 327 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1038 KUVMCD4' has 269 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1041 KFTHDT3' has 136 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1042 KIAHDT3' has 21 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.445 [INFO][6] -channel: '1043 KZHOLD' has 327 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1047 KRHDLD2' has 191 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1049 KUBEDT3' has 336 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1050 KUBEDT5' has 21 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1053 KTBUDT3' has 336 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1054 KTBUDT4' has 338 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1055 KTBUDT5' has 42 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1056 KTBUDT6' has 275 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1060 KUILLD5' has 192 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1061 KZJLDT2' has 338 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1063 KXLNDT2' has 154 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1064 KXLNDT3' has 159 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1065 KBPXLD' has 206 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1066 KBPXLD2' has 338 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1067 KBPXLD3' has 320 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1068 KBPXLD4' has 336 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1069 KBPXLD5' has 131 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1070 KBPXLD6' has 172 listings
2015-08-03 16:48:47.446 [INFO][6] -channel: '1077 KTMDDT3' has 226 listings
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#19
2015-08-03, 05:50 AM
You're right! I looked up a channel-ID for a couple that are local here in Houston, and neither show up anywhere (beyond the list of channels at the top).

So ... I guess you've answered that question ...
... Microsoft Legacy is indeed dead.

But now that I have an explanation for why it wasn't working, I'll go ahead and shoot for the only remaining solution ... Schedules Direct.

Thanks you very much for all your help.
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2015-08-03, 05:58 AM
Jim Dale Wrote:So ... I guess you've answered that question ...
... Microsoft Legacy is indeed dead.
Yep, for now at least.
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