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Strange issue with playback and recording iptv channels only

Strange issue with playback and recording iptv channels only
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#11
2018-03-30, 01:57 AM
You can use cutchunk to grab a part of a file.

http://www.nextpvr.com/nwiki/pmwiki.php?...y.CutChunk

It's a little manual to use, but does the job.
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2018-03-30, 02:05 AM
sub Wrote:Do you have the original .ts file you can supply? Only the original file would have the types of info I'd need - not a .mp4 screen capture.
For future reference, I only ever need your local time.

About BAD TS file clip I sent you. I don't know if this will help you but...
In explorer, file shows as TS, 2.1GB, 57:12.
But when playing in NPVR, shows 59:57, longer duration.
Also when play in MPV, duration is 57:12.

There were few skipped (5-10sec) spots. NPVR time show 35:55 but MPV same spot show 33:04.

skipping..it would skip from 33:22 to 33:28 (MPV), but never stop, freeze, just keeps playing thru.
This rarely happens in VLC.
Bad VLC file would be freeze, video blurr but sound ok, just stop recording short (30min show only record..say..16min).

Another observation.
When I try to "catch" these bad spots by recording few minutes only. All GOOD, never BAD file.
I only see BAD file after scheduled recording is finished. Hard to catch bad recording as it happens as you can imagine.

Like I said I NEVER had a BAD file recording major channels like CBS, NBC, ABC.
Only ESPN, Fox Sports, etc..

Anyway let me know whatever you need. You can use me as test. LOL
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2018-03-30, 02:05 AM
joeijm Wrote:Even 20MB file I sent you took 10mins to upload into Dropbox.
I suspect this is a clue what's going wrong. I'm guessing something about the network is not keeping up, and it occasionally drops the connection and reconnects it (and when this happens the IPTV provider supplies a buffered bit of content you've already received).
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2018-03-30, 02:10 AM
sub Wrote:I suspect this is a clue what's going wrong. I'm guessing something about the network is not keeping up, and it occasionally drops the connection and reconnects it (and when this happens the IPTV provider supplies a buffered bit of content you've already received).

I agree, I suspected that.
BUT why then are CBS, NBC, ABC, etc...never a problem, only ESPN, etc..?
Now as I recall, US-HLN channel always recorded BAD files, Slow motion playback, video/audio not sync. Always BAD no matter when I record. So this maybe channel itself?
That's curious?
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2018-03-30, 02:15 AM
Quote:BUT why then are CBS, NBC, ABC, etc...never a problem, only ESPN, etc..?
Your IPTV provider will have each channel in one of dozens of different hosting centers around the world (located where the channel is being captured). Your connection to some of those hosting providers will be better than others. ie, they may have CBS, NBC, ABC etc in a nice data center somewhere in US with big fast pipes, while ESPN might be on shitty server in the Caribbean or something similar (where the content owner might cause them less legal problems).
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2018-03-30, 02:21 AM
Here's more...
I can get same..say..ESPN on website and use "downloader" to record.
So I tried recording both (ESPN on NPVR and ESPN on web) at same time.
Sure sometimes both bad recordings, but sometimes (this is interesting) web ESPN records perfect but NPVR ESPN is BAD.
Rarely NPVR records better.

Web ESPN is free IPTV source so one would expect bad connection, server overload, thus bad recording. But not too bad as I explained.
"Downloader" I use is VDH(Video DownloaderHelper, firefox addon, FREE).
VDH somehow find URL then download/records from it. ( you can try it if you want. Get VDH and try this website. https://www.streamlive.to/view/48051/ESPN-(HD)
Same URL can't record in VLC though..??
I haven't tried in NPVR cus I don't know how to enter just one URL, I don't wanna mess up existing channels in NPVR.
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2018-03-30, 02:30 AM
sub Wrote:Your IPTV provider will have each channel in one of dozens of different hosting centers around the world (located where the channel is being captured). Your connection to some of those hosting providers will be better than others. ie, they may have CBS, NBC, ABC etc in a nice data center somewhere in US with big fast pipes, while ESPN might be on shitty server in the Caribbean or something similar (where the content owner might cause them less legal problems).

That's certainly a good theory, but far reaching. I don;t know much how all these things work BUT logic tells me these channels mostly come in same bundles?
OR from same few sources? Then there is server locations, etc...Big fat pipe in US don;t mean I can get same here in jungle in Asia.
But who knows? LOL

Another interesting fact.
I got paid IPTV who "claimed" dedicated server near me, Singapore. But not 100%, only little better than before.

I tell you what IF these problems are happening in US, UK, AUS, NZ, etc...NOBODY will pay for the service.
I am patient and also I got no choice stuck in middle of jungle. So I am grateful for anything I get to watch shows and live games.
I get most my contents via torrents and youtube downloads so my internet service don;t bother me much.

I did use IPTV service who had DVR, recorded offline at their site(I guess?). Always perfect play back, I can also download DVR recordings at anytime.

I am just telling you all I done. Maybe something I said will catch you ear? who knows?
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2018-03-30, 02:35 AM
joeijm Wrote:Here's more...
I can get same..say..ESPN on website and use "downloader" to record.
So I tried recording both (ESPN on NPVR and ESPN on web) at same time.
Sure sometimes both bad recordings, but sometimes (this is interesting) web ESPN records perfect but NPVR ESPN is BAD.
Rarely NPVR records better.
There is some more details you can collect, and I might be able to improve things a bit.

You can try creating a c:\temp directory, and setting the following registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Software\Wow6432Node\NPVR\LogNetPush=2 (DWORD)

Then try recording ESPN, then supply the c:\temp\netpush-x.txt file. This log should tell me if it's had to reconnect etc.

Afterwards, it's important you remove that registry setting - it'll produce very big files.

Quote:Web ESPN is free IPTV source so one would expect bad connection, server overload, thus bad recording. But not too bad as I explained.
"Downloader" I use is VDH(Video DownloaderHelper, firefox addon, FREE).
VDH somehow find URL then download/records from it. ( you can try it if you want. Get VDH and try this website. https://www.streamlive.to/view/48051/ESPN-(HD)
Same URL can't record in VLC though..??
This is not the same URL as you're using, so I'm not going to waste my time looking at it.
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2018-03-30, 02:36 AM
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Since 2.1GB is HUGE, is there anything about file that I can send you?
Tell me how?
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2018-03-30, 02:47 AM
joeijm Wrote:That's certainly a good theory, but far reaching. I don;t know much how all these things work BUT logic tells me these channels mostly come in same bundles?
OR from same few sources? Then there is server locations, etc...Big fat pipe in US don;t mean I can get same here in jungle in Asia.
But who knows? LOL

Another interesting fact.
I got paid IPTV who "claimed" dedicated server near me, Singapore. But not 100%, only little better than before.
Actually, it's not a far reaching theory - I know that is exactly what happens. Those channels will be spread around a large number of data centers, and you'll definitely have better/faster connections to some channels than others. Why the connection is better can come down to a variety of reasons, from internet connections at the web host, peering between your internet provider and networks traversed getting to the web host, how oversubscribed the service is (ie, popular channel with too many people trying to watch, and connection or server can't keep up).

Some IPTV providers pay for better cdn services, and can handle larger volume, but ultimately if your got a fairly low speed broadband connection, and you're never going to 100% of your published speed), then you're likely to have on-going problems.

Quote:I tell you what IF these problems are happening in US, UK, AUS, NZ, etc...NOBODY will pay for the service.
I've got great internet here, and I get really good performance out of my IPTV providers, so I'd be in the camp of people happy to pay for service, but if you look around the internet you'll have no problem finding bad reviews of nearly every IPTV provider. These non-legit services are notorious for channels being down or disappearing unexpectedly, but people still pay, because it's a fraction of the price of real service, and it often gets them content not available in their part of the world. Beyond that though - I think people with poor internet services suffer more problems though.
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