Startup in EmulationMode for Dummies required

[fausto]

You need to go to Step 4 on troubleshooting and check out the Microsoft KB article. Martin

You should have seen from posts 6 and 9 that I have followed (albeit blindly) step 4, twice. The second time, when I used the GBPVR server IP in the mount.cifs command there was no request for a password from guest. I interpreted this as confirming that the guest account and sharing were all set up OK. Is this interpretation not correct?

The MS page says "These permissions apply to the folder, all the files in that folder, subfolders, and all the files in the subfolders. Files and folders that are created in or copied to a folder inherit the permissions that are defined for their parent folder."
AFAIKS there's no mention that the order in which the sharing permission is allocated and files are placed in shared folders matters.

[mvallevand]

Pete the batch file equivalent is on the wiki

mkdir c:\mvpmc
net share mvpmc=c:\mvpmc

The problem becomes figuring out what steps were taken to make these simple commands which do work in a default Windows install not work. Under Vista you do have to follow the steps in the Microsoft KB article. For other Windows the problem is almost always that Simple File Sharing isn't enabled and you need to follow the KB article to do this too. There is also things the script just can't do like open your firewall to file sharing and enabling tcp with netbios and fix registry tweaks that people may have followed blindly.


fausto, I'm not sure why I have to explain what I said, but the KB article alludes to the order several times.

"A file's permission may differ from the parent folder if one of the following conditions is true:"

"Note NTFS permissions are not maintained on file move operations when you use Windows Explorer with Simple File Sharing turned on. "

and probably clearest

"If you turn on and turn off Simple File Sharing, the permissions on files are not changed."

If the KB article doesn't help

Martin

[fausto]

when I used the GBPVR server IP in the mount.cifs command there was no request for a password from guest. I interpreted this as confirming that the guest account and sharing were all set up OK. Is this interpretation not correct?

Martin, it would be very helpful if you could confirm (or not) the above. From where I'm standing, it looks like the share is set up correctly to accept "guest" and something else is preventing the emulation mode startup.

[mvallevand]

Martin, it would be very helpful if you could confirm (or not) the above. From where I'm standing, it looks like the share is set up correctly to accept "guest" and something else is preventing the emulation mode startup.

Sorry I can't confirm this because if there is no dongle.bin.config file showing when you do ls /etc/mvpmc something about the share is not set up correctly. It needs this file to start up in emulation mode.

You can issue two more commands from to see if you are attached properly

mount
netstat

Other than that I can't give you anything more to go on,

Martin

[cakes]

fausto, you could also try to access the share from another windows pc using the guest account. That would at least confirm that share and permissions are set up correct.

[fausto]

Good suggestion Cakes, and no, I can't access the share, logged in as guest from another PC, in fact, I can't even get anywhere on my network while logged is an guest.

Martin, this brings me to the obvious next question (I was going to ask anyway): how do you change the permissions for the "guest" account in Windows XP? Everything I've seen and read leads me to believe that "guest" can only be an simple non-administrator account with virtually no permissions to go anywhere and I can't find anyplace were you can change the settings for the guest account. How is it done?

More to the point, why would I want to log in to anything as "guest" anyway. Why wouldn't I want to use my normal login which is what GBPVR starts up as owned by??

[cakes]

hi fausto,
maybe the guest account is disabled? I think by default the guest account is disabled, for security reasons. You can enable it in computer management (control panel / administrative tools).

why would I want to log in to anything as "guest" anyway

I assume mvpmc is programmed to login using the guest account.

[fausto]

Guest account is definitely switched on. How could I have logged on as guest otherwise?

[mvallevand]

As I wrote earlier the guest account and guest share access are not the same thing. You should login normally. You might see if this helps when entered from the windows command prompt

net user guest /active:yes

Martin

[fausto]

I will try your suggestion "net user guest /active:yes" as soon as I can.

As I wrote earlier the guest account and guest share access are not the same thing.

I'm sure you are correct, but I've read and re-read the pages you pointed to on the mvpmc and Microsoft sites and I haven't seen anything that expands or clarifies your comment. As I've explained before, I have not been able to find anything, anywhere on my XP PC which will allow me to change the "guest" permissions on my network.


I'm also still unclear as to why guest share access is required. I am perfectly willing to take your word for it, but I would like to understand the reason.