nPVR on Windows 7

[enigmo]

There's no hardware difference between the Hauppauge IR remotes is there? Like, the one you get with one card should plug in and work fine with any other, right?

[enigmo]

After a thorough poking around with drivers (and a reinstall from scratch), my Nova 500 does indeed seem to behave under Win7 with 6GB Remote still doesn't work, though, and have no idea why..
Erm... Right. OK, just for future generations, the IR receiver for the Nova-T-500 IS DIFFERENT. God knows in what way, and Satan knows why, but it is, and thank <insert random deity here> I managed to find it after five years in a box under the stairs, plugged it in and it works.

[servalan]

If you have UAC enabled you should run all installation/setup as Admin. If you run the 64bit version you also should be aware of where npvr's registry settings go (if you need to access them). Other than that I can't think of anything particular for W7, it works very well for me.

New to Windows 7 - the UAC thing is driving me a little nuts... Do you have an easy way to run all install/setup as admin apart from running NPVR as Administrator from the Start menu? I couldn't figure out why my password change for the web interface wasn't taking. I'm logged in as an admin user, so I thought that would be enough - though it seems not.

Running NPVR from the system tray (i.e. not explicitly as admin) seems to add recordings all OK - but should I always be running NPVR as admin when doing normal stuff like adding things to the schedule?

& if so, is there anything less clunky than a desktop shortcut/pin with 'Run as Admin' set?

[sub]

You shouldnt need to do that. I'm not aware of any reason people would need to run NPVR as admin. It doesnt attempt to write to protected registry settings, or directories (unless you set the data directory to somewhere that wasnt accessable by a regular user account).

[servalan]

You shouldnt need to do that. I'm not aware of any reason people would need to run NPVR as admin. It doesnt attempt to write to protected registry settings, or directories (unless you set the data directory to somewhere that wasnt accessable by a regular user account).

Hmmm... well NPVR didn't install without running the installer as admin. NPVR writeable files by default go into the Public user account. The password change problem for the web interface is reproducible (have to start NPVR as admin for it to change the password). I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

perms all look ok - I am an administrator:

Code:

me@home /cygdrive/c/Users/Public/NPVR
$ ls -alt
total 2313
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 24 12:33 .
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM 2199552 May 24 12:33 npvr.db3
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 24 12:33 Logs
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM    2510 May 24 10:08 recurring-backup.xml
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM    2643 May 24 10:08 recording-backup.xml
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM   10065 May 23 14:40 config.xml
-rwx------+ 1 me             None       436 May 23 14:40 lastscan.xml
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM      63 May 23 13:38 web-saved-searches.xml
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM    4416 May 23 13:35 config-web.xml
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 11:59 web
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 11:59 Tuning
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 11:59 Thumbs
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 11:59 Skin
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 11:59 Dongle
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 11:59 Custom
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM      69 May 23 11:03 recurring-backup.xml.1
-rwxrwx---  1 Administrators SYSTEM      69 May 23 11:03 recording-backup.xml.1
-rwx------+ 1 me             None        69 May 23 10:43 recurring-backup.xml.2
-rwx------+ 1 me             None        69 May 23 10:43 recording-backup.xml.2
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 10:29 Scripts
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 10:29 Plugins
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 10:29 Media
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 10:29 MDPlugins
drwx------+ 1 Administrators None         0 May 23 10:29 Languages
drwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators root         0 May 23 10:29 ..
-rwx------+ 1 Administrators None     10194 Mar  1 04:58 Config-master-dont-edit.xml
-rwx------+ 1 Administrators None      1964 Feb 18 12:53 KeyMappings.xml
-rwx------+ 1 Administrators None      4001 Jan 29 10:47 AnalogDevices.xml
-rwx------+ 1 Administrators None     22528 Jul  6  2010 empty.db3
-rwx------+ 1 Administrators None       820 Jun 13  2010 DeviceRules.xml

[Reddwarf]

You can turn UAC off, the next time you get a warning there should be a link named something like "change the warning level" or something like that. If you set it to the bottom and have Admin priv. at your normal account you should not be bothered anymore. That's what I always do on new installations

[mvallevand]

To change the web password effectively you do have invoke UAC to restart the recording service which stops and restarts a new web server under the local system account. For a server this makes sense to me, disabling UAC to restart services seems like bad form.

Martin

[sub]

Hmmm... well NPVR didn't install without running the installer as admin.

Running the install should automatically prompt to run as administrator, like pretty much other other installer. I just double checked here, and it definitely prompts me to go into administrative mode.

Have you maybe disabled UAC on your machine? If so, then maybe this is a factor.

NPVR writeable files by default go into the Public user account.

That is fine, and doesnt need any administrative privileges.

The password change problem for the web interface is reproducible (have to start NPVR as admin for it to change the password).

What exactly happens for you? The web server password should no different any other settings, ie it's just another string written to the config.xml. You will need to use the shortcuts to restart the recording service though.

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

Same

[sub]

To change the web password effectively you do have invoke UAC to restart the recording service which stops and restarts a new web server under the local system account. For a server this makes sense to me, disabling UAC to restart services seems like bad form.

Yeah - there is some settings that would need the recording service to be restarted, and when you use the shortcut that the NPVR installer created for this, it should auto-prompt to run as administrator. ie, no need to disable UAC for this.

[servalan]

Running the install should automatically prompt to run as administrator, like pretty much other other installer. I just double checked here, and it definitely prompts me to go into administrative mode.

Have you maybe disabled UAC on your machine? If so, then maybe this is a factor.

UAC is enabled with the default setting. When I installed NPVR the first time & yes I did let it escalate its privileges during the install - the recording service wouldn't stop & start. I uninstalled & found this thread the 2nd post saying "If you have UAC enabled you should run all installation/setup as Admin." & reinstalled running the installer as administrator via a right click from windows explorer & it all worked fine.

You will need to use the shortcuts to restart the recording service though.

Ok - now I'm getting confused. In order for the web passwd to change, the web service needs to be restarted which requires a manual restart of the recording service? Maybe that's been my problem all along.