Is HP Expresscard Analog TV Tuner supported

[mvallevand]

Could you just outline the steps or provide a link?

McBainUK already took the answer this http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post424357 I think the likely difference is you didn't read the note on the wiki to change the version.

In an earlier post it doesn't look like you know how to apply patches since I see you running right from the patch CodeBase: file:///E:/Downloads/NPVR%202.2.6%20Patches%20Final/NextPVR.exe You should read the post from johnsonx42 http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post417920 for instructions on this.

Also I don't follow what is meant by: "but you mentioned two commercial products that can afford to license them". Which two commercial products?

Here is what I referred too.

I reinstalled but still no devices listed. Strange. When I first got the HP Expresscard card I opened my video program Cyberlink Power Director and it immediately found the card and was able to capture from it. I then installed Sagetv and it also found the card right away.

Martin

[pinnacleprobs]

McBainUK already took the answer this http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post424357 I think the likely difference is you didn't read the note on the wiki to change the version.

In an earlier post it doesn't look like you know how to apply patches since I see you running right from the patch CodeBase: file:///E:/Downloads/NPVR%202.2.6%20Patches%20Final/NextPVR.exe You should read the post from johnsonx42 http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post417920 for instructions on this.


Here is what I referred too.


Martin

Regarding the two programs I have. Cyberlink Power Director isn't a PVR. It allows direct capture but doesn't have settings allowing one to schedule recording of tv programs and it has no connection to an EPG. Sagetv allows only a 15 day trial but because it was bought by Google and I guess put on the shelf, doesn't have a way to purchase a license for the software.
I'm quite content with this Capture card going into the express card slot. Because I bought it used it came with no software. Also, I like analog because one can have analog cable and have 12 different tvs, pvrs etc in a house viewing 12 different programs without set top boxes and the monthly fees that go with them.
I think I've been a good sport about trying to delve into the inner workings of your program. The instructions might as well have been in Greek though because either nothing went smoothly or as planned or I didn't understand them and still don't. I sent several kinds of data logs and the answer I get seems to be that I am being a poor student and not reading this or that piece of too technical passage instead of just giving a simple instruction to adjust a setting here or there.
Outside of Windows Media Center, which I don't care for, are there no other pvr programs for an xp pc?

[Reddwarf]

The instructions might as well have been in Greek though because either nothing went smoothly or as planned or I didn't understand them and still don't. I sent several kinds of data logs and the answer I get seems to be that I am being a poor student and not reading this or that piece of too technical passage instead of just giving a simple instruction to adjust a setting here or there.
Outside of Windows Media Center, which I don't care for, are there no other pvr programs for an xp pc?

Any progress?

[ShiningDragon]

(...) I get seems to be that I am being a poor student and not reading this or that piece of too technical passage instead of just giving a simple instruction to adjust a setting here or there.

Are you kidding? No one wrote something like this. Please stop whining and rtfm! Just follow the instructions on the wiki and all will be fine.
Ok, you have Windows XP. You have an (currently) unknown analog tv card. Before you start, make a clean environment. Remove any "codepacks" and other unlicensed stuff, which could disturb a clean installation and reboot the machine. Make sure, that the driver for your HP Express Card are installed and working fine.

Make sure, that you meet the minimum requirements for NextPVR. If you're missing a neccessary software requirement, install it. If you're asked too, reboot your machine. Don't forget to run Windows Update after installing the microsoft stuff, until there are no new updates and security fixes left.

If you meet the minimum software requirements, then you're a big step forward in the right direction. Now you can install the latest release of NextPVR. Follow the installation carefully.

Because your HP Express Card is an analog one, you need one extra step to do, before it could be used within NextPVR. You have to choose Option 2. Read it carefully and follow the instructions step by step without skipping one.

The next problem is, that your HP Express Card isn't known by NextPVR by default. This has nothing to do with "beeing a poor student", it's just because this tuner is very, very, very rare (it's a lousy one and was a long time way to expensive ... 4 years ago i had the same one for my hp laptop). So you have to make it known by NextPVR. Read this part to do this.

If you have absolved all steps mentioned before, then you can start with the configuration of NextPVR itself.

Should it now work, then all is fine. If you have problems though, then please give a detailed error desciption with logfiles. But only after you followed all steps before!

And if it shouldn't work and you're not willing to fix this problem:

Outside of Windows Media Center, which I don't care for, are there no other pvr programs for an xp pc?

A lot of them.

I think, for a freeware software like NextPVR you can get a lot of service, help and manuals to read (big thanks to steeb and all the other wiki contributors at this stage).

[pinnacleprobs]

Thanks for taking the time for the replies. I'm actually braver than most of my friends when it comes to venturing into more technical sides of the computer. But still I'm a complete lay person in this regard and have no interest in it further than just getting some program to work. It's like if I buy a car I don't expect to have to immediately get under it with wrenches since I don't care for working on cars. Compared to sagetv this NextPVR cost me 10 times more time and it never came close to doing anything whereas sagetv worked right away and without having to download lots of other stuff.I downloaded all the programs mentioned on this forum...softpvr,wintv7. If you really know what you're doing in this field I imagine this might be a program for you. To me it seems only half finished for the general public. Regarding that HP Card...it captures just fine (with sagetv) and cost me only $10. I won't be spending more time with this. Thanks again for those who attempted to help.

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It's like if I buy a car I don't expect to have to immediately get under it with wrenches since I don't care for working on cars.

Thats not quite the right analogy. It's more like you were given a car for free, but are disappointed you have to do a little work to get it running well.

[Reddwarf]

Did you give it up? That surprises me, given all instructions you'v got (including those I sent you in a PM) it should be straight forward to get this card working.

[pinnacleprobs]

Did you give it up? That surprises me, given all instructions you'v got (including those I sent you in a PM) it should be straight forward to get this card working.

Thanks for your reply and help. It had me doing things I'm not experienced in doing but it finally got the card listed in devices and even set up the cable channels. However I'm still not able to make heads or tails out of the decoder settings at this point. No idea which of the selections in the drop down boxes to make. I tried many but no picture.I wondered if maybe there should be an extra line for filter encoder in that text file I edited? The screen shot also shows what the picture looks like now. The audio comes through correctly. If the picture gets straightened out I'd appreciate knowing if it's possible to use Titantv listings to tell NVPR when to record programs.

[Reddwarf]

The filters you need to set up is the MPEG2 Video and MPEG1 Audio, plus Video Renderer. If you are running XP one of the VMR9 renderer would probably be the best. I'm puzzeled about the picture, seems almost as the card is set to PAL and getting NTCS. Are you sure you have a strong signal? If you watch with another pvr app first, does it make any difference in npvr?

[johnsonx42]

I'd think Cyberlink PDVD8 ought to work for video on your setup, but I have no way to know whether that decoder is actually properly installed and functional. ffdshow ought to work as well, but again as long as you have it installed right and have NextPVR.exe whitelisted in the ffdshow settings.

You might try installing Hoborg's SAF6 package here: http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?50227-Saf6. It installs all the decoders you need and sets them up correctly; hopefully it can deal with the decoder mess you have already installed.

I think during the installation it tells you how to set your NPVR settings, or these days it may do it for you.

In any case, for analog recordings you need only the MPEG2 video and MPEG1 audio decoders. You should disable all the other decoder settings.