Unhandled exception has occured in a component in your application error.

[hyde]

Channel Name: I have "Destination HD", "SHOP NBC", "AL JAZEERA", etc.. on the list, so I doubt it is the channel name, but I will rename it to just WCBS and retry.
Copy-Once: I agree %100 that Time Warner is a terrible company in terms of giving people headache. I verified this with WMC that it is not flagged. While I have the (!) Copy Protected info with my older Hallmark, SHO, etc. recording using ATI Cable Card, I do not have that with CBS, and have not had it with anything I recorded using HDHR.

I don't know what makes NBC & THIRTEEN (17.x) work and stop working, but at this point they both work, a little sluggish but they work. I did not change any settings, it is still the same splitters and did not restart yet. I will agree that I am also suspicious of signal strength, but I cannot confirm since WMC was showing %100, and since Thirteen also works even though I did not rename it.

I am now watching the TV on XBMC, I see there is a setting "Show signal strength" I enabled it so I can tell you, but I don't see signal info displayed anywhere on screen.

[mvallevand]

I am now watching the TV on XBMC, I see there is a setting "Show signal strength" I enabled it so I can tell you, but I don't see signal info displayed anywhere on screen.

Sub doesn't implement that API in XBMC or show signal strength in NextPVR for that matter. He used to in GBPVR I'm not sure why he dropped it.

Martin

[hyde]

Years ago I had a little application, I didn't know what to do with it back then, it used to have signal strength, quality, all sort of tests, etc.. I wish I remember what I did with that application. I used that when I was testing my Cable Card tuner.

[johnsonx42]

maybe NPVR is gagging on some bogus EIT data on those channels? Try setting <CollectEIT> to false in config.xml.

edit: on reading other posts in this thread it does look more likely to be signal strength... but the only reason to want EIT data, afaik, is to get the OTA EPG data which you don't get or need anyway.

[mvallevand]

Years ago I had a little application, I didn't know what to do with it back then, it used to have signal strength, quality, all sort of tests, etc.. I wish I remember what I did with that application. I used that when I was testing my Cable Card tuner.

The HDHR utility would be fine. The fact that it doesn't always find your stations is the biggest indication of a signal strength issue.

Martin

[hyde]

The HDHR utility would be fine. The fact that it doesn't always find your stations is the biggest indication of a signal strength issue.

Martin

It has always been the same case. HDHR Setup/Digital Cable/ Scan finds all channels without a hiccup. The other screen HDHR's utility cannot display other than 5 channels because of the way TWC sends the channels, which is also why WMC cannot locate those other channels, but when manually added they get %100 signal and no problem.

I think this whole thing can be avoided if I used OTA, but wife needs The Food Network which is only on cable. I don't want to confuse things further by setting one tuner on OTA and another on QAM, even though it is very unlikely that I will face a tuner conflict since I rarely record anything.

[hyde]

I am not sure if I should start a new thread or not, but since you have at least some idea, I wanted to post here.

First, This is really odd one, Food Network (Found by NPVR's Channel Search on 58.32) is showing as Scrambled when manually added to WMC. NPVR search finds the Frequency and ID and displays the channel on both NPVR and XBMC. When I search for the channel on HDHR Setup, it does not find the channel either. There are a few other channels NPVR was able to find, which HDHR replicated, Food Network is the only channel that NPVR can display, nothing else can.

Second, when I tune into a channel in XBMC and keep watching and leave it running overnight, I come back to a completely frozen/hung system. I will try again tonight with a different channel, a channel that is not controversial (Like CBS or Food Network) and report back.

Things I am doing now: Running cable directly to TV with just 1 TWC-provided splitter in between (for cable modem) to see if Food shows up on TV, deleting TV buffer files (to my surprise there were around 30 different buffer files all for same channel and I found Recording service stuck ON with icon RED (I only tried recording something for 5 minutes).

[mvallevand]

Let's see. Sometimes stations are briefly in the clear or on demand so you can't necessarily add everything in your scan.

I think for the longest time sub considered NextPVR was more about recording which does works great, now xbmc users are changing the user requirements. NextPVR has never cleaned up well for itself, but sub has improved this slightly for the next version. Every crash leaves some files and every time more than 3 rolling files are created there are stragglers. xbmc users have reported files continue to grow after xbmc is shutdown, at least I'm lucky not to see that one. Overnight from any client, I can almost guarantee that NextPVR or XBMC will hang too. To be fair most of my crashes are on wifi and sub does acknowledge that clients will crash on any network error so I lcan live with these extra files.

Martin

[hyde]

I don't know, it sounds like NPVR somehow unscrambles a channel that nothing else can. It may be briefly in the clear, we will check that again tomorrow. Also freezing might be due to TWC turning encryption on, hanging XMBC/NPVR.

I am going to leave it on a channel that I know has a strong signal and see what happens in the morning, however tuning into some channels is still pretty slow. Having to stop a channel overnight so NPVR does not hang can be very tedious because sometimes you have a scheduled recording and you just go to sleep.. Once I left WMC running for 3 weeks came back to nearly a season full of Frasier recorded! I forgot to turn off the scheduled season recording that included reruns.

Why is "NPVR Device Status" is Red? Does this mean PVR is busy with tuners, or both tuners, or recording? I thought it should be red only when recording, but it is not recording anything!

If we all end up confirming that Food TV is encrypted and that it "comes and goes" because I can't really find it in any one of the listings for my area in Silicondust's listing site I feel you are right, I will just get rid of cable and go OTA. Will this help NPVR run smoother?

[Zeb]

It definitely happens that supposedly encrypted channels are in fact unencrypted, sometimes for long periods of time. I always chalked it up to cable company incompetence, but I've read on the forums that they sometimes switch encryption on and off deliberately, e.g. this post by ttfitz: http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...post456829

I seem to recall reading that WMC will honor a channel's protected status even when it is in fact being transmitted in the clear.

If you include live TV buffer files as recordings, then yes, device status should only be red when recording. If it stays on e.g. after trying to watch an encrypted channel, I would exit the app and restart NPVR Service.

Your tuners and software are certainly capable of both QAM and ATSC. Of course reception can be an issue with ATSC, which is why I pay for QAM.