Live TV timeshift misbehaving on Shield

[mvallevand]

FF in Chrome and the problem you explained with Rewind in Kodi have very little in common 

Martin

[PeterWeb]

FF in Chrome and the problem you explained with Rewind in Kodi have very little in common 

Martin

We're at cross-purposes Martin - FF = Firefox in my last post.  Thus, the Kodi/NEXTPVR-plugin report was about positioning in live streams and is Kodi misbehaviour only, not related to browsers at all. The second set of logs I uploaded and linked in the relevant report relate to that, where Kodi was bombing with a v5 backend, as it did for v4.

I haven't (yet) created and uploaded logs related to my wife's fast-forward and rewind issue with v5 and perhaps it's not all that important.

The "FF and Chrome" comment is my abbreviation for "Firefox and Chrome" - in response to Sub's question and relating to the PIN issue. That's a distinct thing which is probably resolved by what you've both mentioned about saved passwords in some browsers.

Hope that's clearer.

[mvallevand]

Sorry this thread is quite confusing with mixed up issues.  What I saw in the Kodi log I looked at was no bomb just live TV ending on a seek while video was paused.  Is that something that you or she does often?

Martin

[PeterWeb]

Sorry this thread is quite confusing with mixed up issues.  What I saw in the Kodi log I looked at was no bomb just live TV ending on a seek while video was paused.  Is that something that you or she does often?

Martin

Yes, I shouldn't have cluttered it up so much - I just got a little bogged down during the transition, which Sub helped me through very nicely.

If the logs aren't conveying much, I'm not sure what more I can do to demonstrate the problem. The bomb was happening and repeatable with the v4 back end and is happening and repeatable with the v5 back end.  Post #9 describes what I did to make it happen, and post #11 has a link to the relevant logs in a zipfile.

Since I'd paused for 30-40 seconds, doing a single (10 sec) skip-forward should not end Live TV and should not exit Kodi. But that's what is happening, on my Shield leastways.

For v5, the looping issue is a separate one for now - if it only happens on ff/rewind it's not important, as I can train my wife out of using those buttons and just use skip forward/back instead.

[mvallevand]

Do you mean bomb to mean exiting live TV unexpectedly? I use that term differently. I will checkout the links you mentioned but can you confirm the issue is skipping while paused as you described and you don't hit play first

Martin

[PeterWeb]

Do you mean bomb to mean exiting live TV unexpectedly?  I use that term differently.  I will checkout the links you mentioned but can you confirm the issue is skipping while paused as you described and you don't hit play first

Martin

"Bombed out of Kodi completely", as in, I end up back at the Shield's home screen, which I almost never see in normal use. If I then select Kodi, it is clearly loading again from scratch and reinitialising plugins, etc, rather than just task switching.

So my take is that Kodi has bombed with some kind of failure caused by the plug-in.

Yes, in this case the skip-forward was done while paused. I've just repeated it again now on some Live TV that I'd paused for over 10 minutes, rather than a minute or so as in the earlier tests.

The first skip seemed to work (remained paused, just incremented the position). The second skip of another ten seconds shortly afterwards took me out to the Shield's home screen.

Loaded Kodi again and did a test with pressing play again before the skip-forward. That was ok, twice in succession. Pause again, wait 20 seconds or so, then skip forward - Kodi bombs to the home screen again. Seems pretty consistent.

I hope that's useful.

[mvallevand]

Ok if it useful in the sense that the addon has told Kodi that the skip failed and then it died in Kodi not in the addon from what I see.

From your comments though it sounds like hitting play then skip is ok. If so there could be an issue skipping while paused on the shield. If so that is also outside the add-ons control. You might be able to confirm a hw issue by disabling hw playback.

Martin

[PeterWeb]

Ok if it useful in the sense that the addon has told Kodi that the skip failed and then it died in Kodi not in the addon from what I see.

From your comments though it sounds like hitting play then skip is ok.  If so there could be an issue skipping while paused on the shield.  If so that is also outside the add-ons control.  You might be able to confirm a hw issue by disabling hw playback.

Martin

I'll try that and report back if it makes a difference. In the meanwhile - I use skipping from paused all the time for recorded streams without issues - shouldn't Live TV respond the same?

[PeterWeb]

Ok if it useful in the sense that the addon has told Kodi that the skip failed and then it died in Kodi not in the addon from what I see.

From your comments though it sounds like hitting play then skip is ok.  If so there could be an issue skipping while paused on the shield.  If so that is also outside the add-ons control.  You might be able to confirm a hw issue by disabling hw playback.

Martin

I'll try that and report back if it makes a difference. In the meanwhile - I use skipping from paused all the time for recorded streams without issues - shouldn't Live TV respond the same?

The only hardware acceleration options I could find anywhere on the Shield (including developer settings) were two in Kodi's Player|Videos|Processing section. 

I turned them both off but it didn't make a difference to the behaviour I'm afraid, it still bombs on the skip-after-pause. Perhaps there's another setting I should use but a web search isn' finding it.  If perchance you're referring to the Shield's AI upscaling, that's always set to Basic.

[mvallevand]

Recording and live TV are quite different. I will have to test this more but I always found the pause skip play combo odd and I never saw your play key being entered.

If you can't turn off mediacodec don't worry it was an long shot anyway.

Martin