nDroid v1.2.x (Beta) support thread

[bgowland]

Im not sure where we stand on the time issue, but I am still experiencing problems. A show that starts 21:00 in my EPG is showing as 22:00 on nDroid.

One hour ahead sounds like a daylight savings confusion perhaps - when does Sweden adopt DST? Also, I presume the times are showing correctly in nPVR itself?

[agerdin]

One hour ahead sounds like a daylight savings confusion perhaps - when does Sweden adopt DST? Also, I presume the times are showing correctly in nPVR itself?

We are not doing our DST until March 27 and yes, all EPG times in NPVR are correct.

The extract from my epg below is the show I am using for reference. It shows correctly at 21:00 in NPVR but as 22:00 in nDroid.

Code:

<programme start="20110316210000 +0100" stop="20110316215500 +0100" channel="7.tvgrabber">
    <title>Grey's anatomy</title>
    <desc>(Avsnitt 11/22) Amerikansk dramaserie frÃ¥n 2010-11. En beväpnad man öppnar eld pÃ¥ en lokal skola och det väller in patienter pÃ¥ sjukhuset. Säsong 7. GästskÃ¥despelare: Peter MacNicol, Susan Ruttan.</desc>
    <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">-1 . 10/22 .</episode-num>
  </programme>

\\Agerdin

[bgowland]

The extract from my epg below is the show I am using for reference. It shows correctly at 21:00 in NPVR but as 22:00 in nDroid.

Urrm OK, rather embarrassingly I just realised my EPG is ahead by one hour as well.

I expect it's a fault in my code but I hope this isn't a replay of the 1990s when MS had to release a Windows TZ patch because they assumed Europe adopted DST at the same time as the US (yes, it happened and seriously messed up a lot of systems).

I'll check and get back to you.

[bgowland]

Aaaargh!!!!

Code:

DEBUG/uk.co.beetec.android.nDroid.NDroidHelper(12719): rawOffset: 0 dstSavings: [color=red]3600000[/color]

The value for dstSavings is +60 minutes represented in milliseconds - Android thinks we've already adopted DST and it'll be another 10 days before that happens.

OK, I'll upload a version ASAP with a manual override for DST - it's a hack but it'll work. Sigh!

[bgowland]

OK, my bad (figures ). I changed the 'time' functions I was using when I fixed the TZ problems and the ones I'm using now work slightly differently. Doh!

Post #1 has v1.2.7 of the nDroid client which fixes the problem.

[bgowland]

v1.2.8 (and versions from now on) will store the nDroid SQLite DB in internal memory rather than attempt to use the SD card.

I can't see it taking up more than about 5MB (although time will tell) and in reality it possibly may only be a half to one-third of that size.

Anyone concerned about internal memory usage can go to Settings -> SD & phone storage on their device to see how much internal memory is available.

If you want to check how much nDroid is using, go to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications. Select nDroid and it will give Application Info showing total storage used.

[mvallevand]

Good news, I am successfully running nDroid on my Android 2.1 tablet and all is working well. Looking over the comments I don't have a lot of new things to add but here goes

- I don't want to see expired programs today
- I'd like to tap the Channel text and not just the icon to change stations
- I don't use channel icons so I'd prefer a nicer generic icon
- One test channel icon (jpg) didn't display anything.
- future days show from the preceding show the day before. It's odd seeing some days start at 9:30pm
- Channels names for selection are useless I don't know the call-letters at all just the channel number.
- However for premium channels like HBO I'd want the name so I guess and want name an number
- I'd prefer channels by numbers in columns and not snaked (which sub might find contradictory because I argued against this for icon view) but that might be because I am counting to find which one is channel 13

Overall I was very impressed until I gave it to my wife. She made some very valid points. We watch and record looking at the EPG but we really don't know what channel most things are on after we select them scrolling through 8 channels at once for the evening. We know we record the Good Wife on Tuesdays at 10h but we don't know what number or network it is on. To use this it was funny watching her go to the EPG on the TV to get the channel name to select to load in nDroid.

I checked the competition and DirectTV's rtmp://directv.fcod.llnwd.net/a517/d1/mp4:com/cms2/widtv/DVR_Scheduler_Update.f4v is interesting (about 1/2 way through) it has the find, which I know my wife wants, plus a manual record, which is probably how I think but it's great to have manual record linked to the guide.

Please don't take this as negative, it is a fine app with lots of potential and as my wife said it would be great to be able to use this when you aren't at home if you hear about something to record.

Martin

[bgowland]

Good news, I am successfully running nDroid on my Android 2.1 tablet and all is working well.

Glad to hear it.

- I don't want to see expired programs today
- I'd like to tap the Channel text and not just the icon to change stations
- I don't use channel icons so I'd prefer a nicer generic icon
- One test channel icon (jpg) didn't display anything.
- future days show from the preceding show the day before. It's odd seeing some days start at 9:30pm
- Channels names for selection are useless I don't know the call-letters at all just the channel number.
- However for premium channels like HBO I'd want the name so I guess and want name an number
- I'd prefer channels by numbers in columns and not snaked (which sub might find contradictory because I argued against this for icon view) but that might be because I am counting to find which one is channel 13

Thanks, several are on the todo list and are mostly just cosmetic/view related. I want to spend a lot of time in this area now I've hopefully ironed out a lot of the teething troubles (famous last words). Slightly confused about the test jpg problem though - possible filename issue, case-sensitivity?

Overall I was very impressed until I gave it to my wife.

Oh, no!!!! You gave it your wife??? :eek:

Please don't take this as negative, it is a fine app with lots of potential and as my wife said it would be great to be able to use this when you aren't at home if you hear about something to record.

All ideas/comments/feedback welcome, and that last comment nicely rounds it as it's how I came to start this - up until a couple of weeks ago I spent 30hrs a week on the road and lost count of how many TV programmes I meant to record and then remembered 5 minutes after they started (when I was miles away and nobody at home to call). The initial idea (and still my main focus) is a pocket TV Guide linked to npvr...but that's just a start. Ideally, long term, it could scale from small screen phones up to tablets with varying complexity of the UI and features.

BTW, I'm not able to connect to that DirecTV link.

Cheers,
Brian

[Nistrod]

I agree with many of the comments above.
Previous discussions about wi-fi/3G bear thinking about. Its not quite that simple.
If I have a home wifi and an office wifi, the previous idea falls over.
I love the idea of being able to set up my home system and get to it over the Internet.

Suggestion: alternate local/remote addresses, selected by button or such. This means even if the office and home networks share IP address (pretty common, I would think), it would still ignore the office machine that happens to have the same address as my home server, and use the "other" address. To be even smarter, it could check if its on the same network as the server, and default to "remote" if not.

Also, a combined channels display - everything on all channels. Like mvallevand, I dont focus on what channel a show is on. Show everything at once - together with which channel its on.

Please note -nDroid has been promoted to a Home Screen! My wife was astounded when I said I was setting up a recording from the phone!

[mvallevand]

BTW, I'm not able to connect to that DirecTV link.

I see it is an rtmp:// to a flash video maybe you don't support it on your browser. The watch video link is on this page http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/di..._scheduler maybe your browser will handle this?

Marti