pvr150 picture quality

[danIrl]

I should add that the Hauppauge InterVideo decoders work fine. I am using the latest ATI drivers. Did update the DirectX file a while back, but it is possible windows updates have overridden it again. But if itis DirectX, why do the Intervideo coders work fine?

[Chris.Day]

By default, the Hauppauge Intervideo codecs don't use DXVA.

[Jep4444]

I've used 4 different codecs(including the lates CyberLink) and none of them help, does anyone know if an S-video cable might help me at all?

[ubu]

Why not buy an S-video cable and see if it helps? They're not expensive. Conventional wisdom has it that S-video will give better results than composite and I have certainly experienced that it's a bit better. I now have a component cable hook up which produces a higher quality picture than either S-video or composite.

[csy]

I've used 4 different codecs(including the lates CyberLink) and none of them help, does anyone know if an S-video cable might help me at all?

We need more information in order to help you.

As Chris.Day pointed out, the picture shown in post 78 shows very bad interlacing artifacts, so an S-video cable will not fix that.

Now lets work on one issue at a time, starting with TV only.

Please:
- detail hardware
- video driver version and settings (resolution, refresh rate, colours, DXVA, deinterlacing, AGP/PCI settings)
- GBPVR version and playback config, and LiveTV-preview config
- any custom parameters in GBPVR direct.ini or config.xml
- video decoder settings of your chosen decoder.
- Re-start GBPVR, run LiveTV, exit, and post your "gbpvr.exe-native.log" into this thread.

[Jep4444]

alright, the computer in question is an Athlon 64 3000+ overclocked to 2.4ghz from 1.8ghz(this has never been a problem in the year that i've owned it), with 1GB of PC3200 RAM(i used dividers to OC) and a Radeon X800GT(so it supports all the necessary features)

i'm not sure the exact video driver version but they are the most recent ATI ones as of a few days ago, the refresh rate is 60hz(i m on an LCD) and i even download ATI Tray Tools in an attempt to turn on DXVA, deinterlacing is set to auto but i've tested every mode while my PCIe bus is set at its normal 100mhz, my PCI mode also at 33mhz(iirc, i havent changed it)

Again I'm using the latest version of GB PVR, ive been playing around with a bunch of playback config options(Defualt, Nero, Intervideo and Cyberlink) and i'm using VMR9(although ive tried all 4)

The only change made in the direct.ini is that i increase the brightness but the issue existed before that

not 100% what you mean there but i think its covered 2 posts up(if not then tell me)

I think i got everything there, if not then once again let me know

10:17:58.133 INFO Log started
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(VMR9CustomAllocatorRenderer)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(ShowClosedCaptions)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(UseFFDSHOW)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(TvShape)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(EnableTeleText)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(ForcedGraphTeardown)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(HorizontalZoom)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE Horizontal Zoom: 1.050000
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(VerticalZoom)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE Vertical Zoom: 1.000000
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(HorizontalOffset)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE Horizontal Offset: 0
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(VerticalOffset)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE Vertical Offset: 0
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(LiveTVPrePlayDelay)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(OSDTransparency)
10:17:58.133 VERBOSE getSetting(TeletextRect)
10:17:58.148 VERBOSE MinimumFilePlaySize=200000
10:17:58.180 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerVMR9() initialising...
10:17:58.180 VERBOSE getSetting(OSDTransparency)
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StartRecording(1, 2, 1, 0)
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE target filename:
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE getSetting(DeinterlaceMethod)
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE Capture Device is based on BlackBird architecture
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE Capture Device is using Conexant (derived) drivers
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE Loading filter names
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE Found names:
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
10:18:00.586 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvTuner
10:18:00.601 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvAudio
10:18:01.476 VERBOSE ConnectPins: 'Audio Decoder Out' to 'Analog Audio In'
10:18:01.648 VERBOSE About to query available formats
10:18:01.664 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::SetConfigurationECP()
10:18:01.664 INFO Firmware Version 2.5.32



Audio Firmware Version 0.0.42



Model 26032 Rev C199

Serial No: 8327849

Tuner[1]: Model 99 (TCL 2002N_5H)

Decoder: 28

AudioIC: 35

IR



Input Map: C= 0x000f, S= 0x0003


10:18:01.726 VERBOSE getSetting(EnableTeleText)
10:18:01.726 VERBOSE getSetting(ListGraphFilters)
10:18:01.726 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
10:18:01.726 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV Color Format Converter 2
10:18:01.726 VERBOSE - Capture
10:18:01.726 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:01.726 VERBOSE getSetting(SaveGraphFiles)
10:18:01.758 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StartRecording() done
10:18:01.805 INFO DirectShowPlayerBase::playLiveStream(pGB, 'Color Converter', 'Out', 'Capture', 'Audio Out', hwnd)
10:18:01.820 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRWindowedMode)
10:18:01.820 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRDeinterlaceMode)
10:18:01.820 VERBOSE VMRDeinterlaceMode: other (deferred)
10:18:01.820 VERBOSE getSetting(PreferredAudioRenderer)
10:18:01.820 VERBOSE getSetting(DeinterlaceMethod)
10:18:01.836 VERBOSE FindFilterByName failed to locate filter: None
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRDeinterlaceMode)
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE getSetting(ListGraphFilters)
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE - Default DirectSound Device
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE - Video Renderer
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV Color Format Converter 2
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE - Capture
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:02.008 VERBOSE getSetting(SaveGraphFiles)
10:18:02.023 VERBOSE setSourceAspectRatio() using autoAspectRatio
10:18:02.023 VERBOSE video resolution is 720 x 480
10:18:02.023 VERBOSE unknown source aspect ratio...showing full frame
10:18:02.930 INFO DirectShowPlayerBase::playLiveStream() done
10:18:03.148 VERBOSE getSetting(VMR9CustomAllocatorRenderer)
10:18:06.492 VERBOSE NativeUtilities::MediaHelper:top()
10:18:06.492 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top
10:18:06.492 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@2 (skipping window positioning)
10:18:06.492 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@3
10:18:06.570 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@4
10:18:06.570 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@5
10:18:06.570 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@6
10:18:06.570 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@7
10:18:06.570 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@8
10:18:06.570 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top finished
10:18:06.570 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StopRecording()
10:18:06.711 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StartRecording(1, 2, 30, 0)
10:18:06.711 VERBOSE target filename:
10:18:06.711 VERBOSE getSetting(DeinterlaceMethod)
10:18:06.711 VERBOSE Capture Device is based on BlackBird architecture
10:18:06.711 VERBOSE Capture Device is using Conexant (derived) drivers
10:18:06.711 VERBOSE Loading filter names
10:18:06.711 VERBOSE Found names:
10:18:06.726 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:06.726 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
10:18:06.726 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvTuner
10:18:06.726 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvAudio
10:18:06.758 VERBOSE ConnectPins: 'Analog Audio' to 'TVAudio In'
10:18:06.976 VERBOSE ConnectPins: 'Audio Decoder Out' to 'Analog Audio In'
10:18:06.992 VERBOSE put_Mode(AMTUNER_MODE_TV)
10:18:06.992 VERBOSE put_CountryCode(2)
10:18:06.992 VERBOSE put_TuningSpace(2)
10:18:06.992 VERBOSE put_InputType(0, 0)
10:18:06.992 VERBOSE put_ConnectInput(0)
10:18:06.992 VERBOSE put_Channel(30, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT)
10:18:07.211 VERBOSE get_VideoFrequency() returns 259187500
10:18:07.211 VERBOSE get_CountryCode() returns 2
10:18:07.211 VERBOSE About to query available formats
10:18:07.211 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::SetConfigurationECP()
10:18:07.226 INFO Firmware Version 2.5.32



Audio Firmware Version 0.0.42



Model 26032 Rev C199

Serial No: 8327849

Tuner[1]: Model 99 (TCL 2002N_5H)

Decoder: 28

AudioIC: 35

IR



Input Map: C= 0x000f, S= 0x0003


10:18:07.273 VERBOSE getSetting(EnableTeleText)
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE getSetting(ListGraphFilters)
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV Color Format Converter 2
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE - Capture
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE - TV Audio
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE - TV Tuner
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE getSetting(SaveGraphFiles)
10:18:07.273 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StartRecording() done
10:18:07.273 INFO DirectShowPlayerBase::playLiveStream(pGB, 'Color Converter', 'Out', 'Capture', 'Audio Out', hwnd)
10:18:07.289 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRWindowedMode)
10:18:07.289 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRDeinterlaceMode)
10:18:07.289 VERBOSE VMRDeinterlaceMode: other (deferred)
10:18:07.289 VERBOSE getSetting(PreferredAudioRenderer)
10:18:07.289 VERBOSE getSetting(DeinterlaceMethod)
10:18:07.305 VERBOSE FindFilterByName failed to locate filter: None
10:18:07.367 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRDeinterlaceMode)
10:18:07.367 VERBOSE getSetting(ListGraphFilters)
10:18:07.367 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Default DirectSound Device
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Video Renderer
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV Color Format Converter 2
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Capture
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - TV Audio
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - TV Tuner
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE getSetting(SaveGraphFiles)
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE setSourceAspectRatio() using autoAspectRatio
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE video resolution is 720 x 480
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE unknown source aspect ratio...showing full frame
10:18:08.148 INFO DirectShowPlayerBase::playLiveStream() done
10:18:08.164 VERBOSE put_Channel(30, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT)
10:18:09.680 VERBOSE NativeUtilities::MediaHelper:top()
10:18:09.680 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top
10:18:09.680 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@2 (skipping window positioning)
10:18:09.680 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@3
10:18:09.758 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@4
10:18:09.758 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@5
10:18:09.758 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@6
10:18:09.758 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@7
10:18:09.758 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@8
10:18:09.758 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top finished
10:18:09.758 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StopRecording()
10:18:09.883 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top
10:18:09.883 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top finished



PS my inquiry about the S-video cable was for the dot pitch issue shown in picture 76, not the artifacting in 78(which i assumed it wouldn't fix)

[sub]

10:18:07.367 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Default DirectSound Device
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Video Renderer
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV Color Format Converter 2
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Capture
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - TV Audio
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - TV Tuner

On the misc tab of the config app, try setting your deinterlacing to 'encoder pass through'.

[Jep4444]

encoder pass through creates lag that makes games unplayable

either way, it still happens with Encoder Passthrough on

[csy]

What have you configured LiveTV-Preview Deinterlacing to?

Are you using FFDShow post-processing?

What screen resolution are you using?

What type of interface are you using to your LCD display?

[sub]

10:18:07.367 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Default DirectSound Device
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Video Renderer
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV Color Format Converter 2
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Capture
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - TV Audio
10:18:07.383 VERBOSE - TV Tuner

From the list of components listed in your logs, I can see that you'll be receiving an interlaced picture.

Switching to 'encoder pass through' will produce a correctly deinterlaced picture (unless you've configured your video decoder to not deinterlace).

encoder pass through creates lag that makes games unplayable

GB-PVR is the wrong app for this sort of task.