pvr150 picture quality

[Jep4444]

well the interlacing is really only a problem in games so what application do you suggest for games since TV is fine 95% of the time

[sub]

Sorry, I dont really have any suggestions, but I do know that this not really a task GB-PVR was designed for. You can either have no delay but interlaced, or short delay with fully deinterlaced picture. Gaming really needs the best of both of these - no delay, fully deinterlaced. Older software cards (bt878 etc) are better suited to this type of task.

If you're lucky you might be able to install ffdshow, set it to deinterlace the picture, then set GB-PVR's live preview deinterlacing to 'ffdshow'. There is still likely to be some short delay, but it should be much shorter than encoder pass through.

[Jep4444]

What have you configured LiveTV-Preview Deinterlacing to?

um I'm no sure where that is

Are you using FFDShow post-processing?

i am not

What screen resolution are you using?

1280x1024, my screens native resolution, my monitor will not go to a resolution that matches the screen size but ive lowered the res of GB-PVR and it hasnt help

What type of interface are you using to your LCD display?

VGA, my monitor does not support DVI

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Turning on Encoder Pass in no way helps the interlacing issue, Alparysoft Deinterlacing Filter does the best job from what i can tell but its still not perfect(it causes no lag though) but that being said, what app would you recomend running games on since the interlacing is only really happening in games


how do i install FDShow?

[sub]

Turning on Encoder Pass in no way helps the interlacing issue

It will, but it can depend on what video decoder you use, and if the decoder is set to leave the video interlaced. For virtually everybody, this setting will produce a deinterlaced picture without having to change any further settings.

Alparysoft Deinterlacing Filter does the best job from what i can tell but its still not perfect(it causes no lag though) but that being said, what app would you recomend running games on since the interlacing is only really happening in games

Only the 'none' and 'encoder pass through' options do anything by default. The other options 'ffdshow raw video filter' and 'Alparysoft Deinterlacing Filter' are exactly the same as 'none' unless you install their respective third-party components (Alparysoft or ffdshow filters).

[Jep4444]

then it's all in my head that alparysoft is helping, Interlacing control is set to auto in both Catalyst Control Center and in my video codec(cyberlink)

[sub]

Post your logs with it set to encoder pass through and I'll take a look.

[sub]

Also post a screen shot with it set to encoder pass through, so we can be sure we're really talking about interlacing problems still. It may be something else you're seeing.

[Jep4444]

16:23:38.023 INFO Log started
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(VMR9CustomAllocatorRenderer)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(ShowClosedCaptions)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(UseFFDSHOW)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE FFDShow enabled
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(TvShape)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(EnableTeleText)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(ForcedGraphTeardown)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(HorizontalZoom)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE Horizontal Zoom: 1.050000
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(VerticalZoom)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE Vertical Zoom: 1.000000
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(HorizontalOffset)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE Horizontal Offset: 0
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(VerticalOffset)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE Vertical Offset: 0
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(LiveTVPrePlayDelay)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(OSDTransparency)
16:23:38.023 VERBOSE getSetting(TeletextRect)
16:23:38.039 VERBOSE MinimumFilePlaySize=200000
16:23:38.070 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerVMR9() initialising...
16:23:38.070 VERBOSE getSetting(OSDTransparency)
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StartRecording(1, 2, 22, 0)
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE target filename:
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE getSetting(DeinterlaceMethod)
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Capture Device is based on BlackBird architecture
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Capture Device is using Conexant (derived) drivers
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Loading filter names
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Found names:
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvTuner
16:23:43.695 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvAudio
16:23:43.742 VERBOSE ConnectPins: 'Analog Audio' to 'TVAudio In'
16:23:44.008 VERBOSE ConnectPins: 'Audio Decoder Out' to 'Analog Audio In'
16:23:44.008 VERBOSE Looking for encoder filter
16:23:44.008 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Encoder
16:23:44.023 VERBOSE GetMedium(pCapturePin) returns: {7D82C13C-452C-445F-A55E-90227B0F26C3}-007F12A9-00000000
16:23:44.023 VERBOSE getSetting(AutoDetectEncoderMethod)
16:23:44.023 VERBOSE About try all encoders until we find one that works...
16:23:44.023 VERBOSE Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Encoder
16:23:44.023 VERBOSE Encoder.GetMedium(p656Pin) returns: {7D82C13C-452C-445F-A55E-90227B0F26C3}-007F12A9-00000000
16:23:44.023 VERBOSE Pin mediums match...
16:23:44.055 VERBOSE using instance: 1
16:23:44.055 VERBOSE getSetting(PreferredAudioDecoder)
16:23:44.086 VERBOSE put_Mode(AMTUNER_MODE_TV)
16:23:44.086 VERBOSE put_CountryCode(2)
16:23:44.086 VERBOSE put_TuningSpace(2)
16:23:44.086 VERBOSE put_InputType(0, 0)
16:23:44.086 VERBOSE put_ConnectInput(0)
16:23:44.086 VERBOSE put_Channel(22, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT)
16:23:44.289 VERBOSE get_VideoFrequency() returns 169187500
16:23:44.289 VERBOSE get_CountryCode() returns 2
16:23:44.289 VERBOSE About to query available formats
16:23:44.305 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::SetConfigurationECP()
16:23:44.305 INFO Firmware Version 2.5.32



Audio Firmware Version 0.0.42



Model 26032 Rev C199

Serial No: 8327849

Tuner[1]: Model 99 (TCL 2002N_5H)

Decoder: 28

AudioIC: 35

IR



Input Map: C= 0x000f, S= 0x0003


16:23:44.351 VERBOSE getSetting(EnableTeleText)
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE getSetting(ListGraphFilters)
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE - MPEG-2 Demultiplexer
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE - Encoder
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE - Capture
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE - TV Audio
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE - TV Tuner
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE getSetting(SaveGraphFiles)
16:23:44.367 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StartRecording() done
16:23:44.383 INFO DirectShowPlayerBase::playLiveStream(pGB, 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer', 'Video Pin', 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer', 'Audio Pin', hwnd)
16:23:44.398 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRWindowedMode)
16:23:44.398 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRDeinterlaceMode)
16:23:44.398 VERBOSE VMRDeinterlaceMode: other (deferred)
16:23:44.398 VERBOSE getSetting(PreferredAudioRenderer)
16:23:44.398 VERBOSE getSetting(PreferredDecoder)
16:23:44.445 VERBOSE video decoder filter: CyberLink Video/SP Decoder (PDVD7)
16:23:44.445 VERBOSE getSetting(PreferredAudioDecoder)
16:23:44.461 VERBOSE getSetting(DeinterlaceMethod)
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE getSetting(VMRDeinterlaceMode)
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE getSetting(ListGraphFilters)
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE Graph contains the following filters:
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - Default DirectSound Device
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - ffdshow raw video filter
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - Video Renderer
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - ffdshow Audio Decoder
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - CyberLink Video/SP Decoder (PDVD7)
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - MPEG-2 Demultiplexer
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - Encoder
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - Capture
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - TV Audio
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE - TV Tuner
16:23:44.633 VERBOSE getSetting(SaveGraphFiles)
16:23:44.664 VERBOSE setSourceAspectRatio() using autoAspectRatio
16:23:44.664 VERBOSE video resolution is 768 x 576
16:23:44.664 VERBOSE unknown source aspect ratio...showing full frame
16:23:45.461 INFO DirectShowPlayerBase::playLiveStream() done
16:23:45.476 VERBOSE put_Channel(22, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT, AMTUNER_SUBCHAN_DEFAULT)
16:23:45.930 VERBOSE getSetting(VMR9CustomAllocatorRenderer)
16:23:48.726 VERBOSE NativeUtilities::MediaHelper:top()
16:23:48.726 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top
16:23:48.726 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@2 (skipping window positioning)
16:23:48.726 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@3
16:23:48.820 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@4
16:23:48.820 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@5
16:23:48.820 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@6
16:23:48.820 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@7
16:23:48.820 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top@8
16:23:48.820 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top finished
16:23:48.820 VERBOSE ConexantRecorder::StopRecording()
16:23:48.961 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top
16:23:48.961 VERBOSE DirectShowPlayerBase:top finished

[sub]

then it's all in my head that alparysoft is helping, Interlacing control is set to auto in both Catalyst Control Center and in my video codec(cyberlink)

Can you post screenshots of these settings.

[Jep4444]

ok