Enhanced Web Admin

[HtV]

I have a server-service running, but no webserver.Very strange this all. Does this webserver have to be running or does it just have to be installed.

edit: I checked I have no parts installed from IIS.

[Brian_W]

HtV,

You shouldn't need to have IIS installed at all, and I would advise against it unless you specifically need it for something. Just adds another attack vector which is very bad. I haven't been following this thread very closely, but I don't see any reason why the EWA would need IIS installed when it has it's own web server (Cassini). Although I have yet to try hitting my PVR box from the outside (I'm not too keen on opening a web port from the outside to a box on my LAN, I would much rather setup an SSH server and tunnel HTTP over SSH).

Brian

[cubsfan]

I mean I don't have this installed on my machine and the EWA works just fine from bothe inside and outside of my network. So...bullshit to your post. Think about it. That's like saying you needs IIS installed to run Apache.

What do you mean by this? Please explain this in detail, or be quiet.

Before this change, EWA wasn't reachable. After this setup i could suddenly reach the PC's from outside.

So you mean that has nothing to do with it? An easy test: I will uninstall this and i bet i won't be able to reach my PC @ work!

[HtV]

HtV,

You shouldn't need to have IIS installed at all, and I would advise against it unless you specifically need it for something. Just adds another attack vector which is very bad. I haven't been following this thread very closely, but I don't see any reason why the EWA would need IIS installed when it has it's own web server (Cassini). Although I have yet to try hitting my PVR box from the outside (I'm not too keen on opening a web port from the outside to a box on my LAN, I would much rather setup an SSH server and tunnel HTTP over SSH).

Brian

Thanks for your concerns, but I don't have any problems, ShiningDragon had or has that's what we are trying to find out.

[ShiningDragon]

Thanks for your concerns, but I don't have any problems, ShiningDragon had or has that's what we are trying to find out.

Yep..., why is it so? Why aren't my PC's from outside only reachable if don't have the Web-Server installed? Why ARE they reachable directly after me install the Web-Server from the IIS?

Can someone answer me? Especially cubsfan?

[cubsfan]

If it works from inside your network then my guess is that you have a firewall issue of some kind. My guess would be that when you install the web-server that it disables whatever software firewall you have and everything works. When you uninstall it, it activates the firewall again.

Yep..., why is it so? Why aren't my PC's from outside only reachable if don't have the Web-Server installed? Why ARE they reachable directly after me install the Web-Server from the IIS?

Can someone answer me? Especially cubsfan?

[Brian_W]

Yep..., why is it so? Why aren't my PC's from outside only reachable if don't have the Web-Server installed? Why ARE they reachable directly after me install the Web-Server from the IIS?

Can someone answer me? Especially cubsfan?

If it works from localhost and other PC's on your local LAN, but not from outside your router on the public side, there is some sort of firewalling in the way. I'm not sure exactly why, it is odd that installing IIS would allow it to work. Don't take what I am saying as accusing you of lying or anything, just saying it is definitely odd how you got it to work.

Brian

[cubsfan]

Open up a command prompt and type 'netstat -a' minus the quotes and see if your computer is listening on the GBPVR port (7467). You can also try to telnet to your computer 'telnet yourIP 7467' and see if connections work that way. Might help determine if it is a firewall issue vs an HTTP issue. If the telnet works you should see a Cassini error page output in HTML text.

Yep..., why is it so? Why aren't my PC's from outside only reachable if don't have the Web-Server installed? Why ARE they reachable directly after me install the Web-Server from the IIS?

Can someone answer me? Especially cubsfan?

[ShiningDragon]

Don't take what I am saying as accusing you of lying or anything, just saying it is definitely odd how you got it to work.

Brian

No, no don't worry. I'd only wished from cubsfan more details. I have not much experience with webservices.

Your and cubsfans description looks serious. Now i have to find out, what was changed after installation of IIS. Perhaps some special portrange? I don't know it.

[Brian_W]

No, no don't worry. I'd only wished from cubsfan more details. I have not much experience with webservices.

Your and cubsfans description looks serious. Now i have to find out, what was changed after installation of IIS. Perhaps some special portrange? I don't know it.

What other software do you have on the machine? Host based firewall software (built-in windows firewall or third party)? Have you tried to reinstall the EWA from scratch? Try to uninstall IIS and then do what cubsfan suggested with running netstat -a. That will list what processes are currently listening for an active connection, and check for the EWA port of 7647. IIS defaults to port 80, so that itself should have no effect on the GBPVR web server.

Brian