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Client Live Tv Streaming.
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2006-09-27, 07:02 AM
Why is it that a recorded show at medium quality streams very well over m 54g network. But live tv stutters and jumps around? Is it just because its recording at the same time and the host computer can't send the data fast enough or something? I used Sagetv for a bit a while ago and there client worked great. Just wondering what it might be. There should be enough bandwith. I even changed live tv bitrate down to what my medium was an it still jumps. I increased the buffer too like on the other forums. I have tried both file sharing and streaming. File sharing is the only way the recordings work good. But never live tv. Anyway let me know if anyone knows whats up. Thanks.
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2006-09-27, 08:12 AM
congrads al least you can get it to work i have tryed everything to get the client to work on a p4 3.2Ghz and a athlon 2600+ over a wired network and no luck mind you some desent tutorials would be a bonus mow i'm
starting to think i may just give up and go to xlobby and try my luck with it
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2006-09-27, 01:28 PM
Apologies if this is a real newbie problem! I used GBPVR at home successfully, then decided we should try it at school to schedule recordings.

We set up a reasonable "server" to pilot the idea, and I've set up a single client as well. We run a 100Mbit (gigabit backbone) wired network.

The "server" works fine, records shows and plays them back, plays live TV etc, but I can't get any playback or live TV on the client. I think I have the main settings sorted as I can access the server from the client, see a list of what has been recorded and schedule new recordings (successfully), but I can't get live TV to work, nor can I watch the recorded shows.

Basically, I see a white blurry screen, which I can right-click out of back to the menu, so the program isn't actually crashing.

Any ideas?
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2006-09-27, 01:40 PM
SimonL Wrote:Apologies if this is a real newbie problem! I used GBPVR at home successfully, then decided we should try it at school to schedule recordings.

We set up a reasonable "server" to pilot the idea, and I've set up a single client as well. We run a 100Mbit (gigabit backbone) wired network.

The "server" works fine, records shows and plays them back, plays live TV etc, but I can't get any playback or live TV on the client. I think I have the main settings sorted as I can access the server from the client, see a list of what has been recorded and schedule new recordings (successfully), but I can't get live TV to work, nor can I watch the recorded shows.

Basically, I see a white blurry screen, which I can right-click out of back to the menu, so the program isn't actually crashing.

Any ideas?

I assume the server directories are properly shared. Can you play any of the recordings at the client side with Windows Media player? If not it might be a matter of assigning user rights.

If this does not help upload your logfiles (zipped both client and server) with your next post. This will help the specialists (I am not one of them)
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2006-09-27, 03:11 PM
djphatjive Wrote:Why is it that a recorded show at medium quality streams very well over m 54g network. But live tv stutters and jumps around? Is it just because its recording at the same time and the host computer can't send the data fast enough or something? I used Sagetv for a bit a while ago and there client worked great. Just wondering what it might be. There should be enough bandwith. I even changed live tv bitrate down to what my medium was an it still jumps. I increased the buffer too like on the other forums. I have tried both file sharing and streaming. File sharing is the only way the recordings work good. But never live tv. Anyway let me know if anyone knows whats up. Thanks.

Afaik it has to do with the fact that for livetv the client checks every 2 secs for the length of the file (probably only if you use filesharing). I saw in my setup that the upload for the client goes up quite a bit during livetv. My guess is that wireless is not so good at full duplex. I also read that it differs quite a bit, depending on the hardware you use. I think streaming works a lot better than filesharing.
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2006-09-27, 03:26 PM
Hi djphatjive.

I'm not sure if this is good advice or not but I would look for hard drive of the server system. Live will uses both reading and witting from the hard drive where as playback will only use reading. Do you have any other hard drive intensive applications running.
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2006-09-27, 03:52 PM
Thanks for the advice. I've tried playing back a file in WMP direct from the server and it works fine. I actually had another problem in the meantime, whereby I couldn't start GBPVR at all. I tried repairing it, then uninstalled and reinstalled it. It still wouldn't work. Searching these forums, I followed Sub's advice tou you about reregisterfilters.bat and that did the trick. I'm guessing it's because I'd installed the Cyberlink mux earlier and that had messed up the other filters.

Anyway, GBPVR now opens fine, but Live TV says "Entering Timeshift Mode" then nothing happens. If I try to play recordings I get a long pause, then just a black screen (with the GBPVR interface round the edge). I seem to have a lot of logs, so I've zipped them all. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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2006-09-27, 03:59 PM
I've now got playback of recordings working by switching to file sharing mode. The quality is fine, but I'd be interested to know how extensible this method is - i.e. what if 10 or 20 people try to access the same file/ different files simultaneously?

Still no live TV though...Sad
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2006-09-27, 04:56 PM
That could only work on a lan. I guess you would need ~6mb/sec per connection, for 20 users that would be 120mb/sec = 15MB/sec. I don't know what system you have and howm many friends you've gotSmile , try it out.
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2006-09-27, 05:00 PM
SimonL Wrote:Thanks for the advice. I've tried playing back a file in WMP direct from the server and it works fine. I actually had another problem in the meantime, whereby I couldn't start GBPVR at all. I tried repairing it, then uninstalled and reinstalled it. It still wouldn't work. Searching these forums, I followed Sub's advice tou you about reregisterfilters.bat and that did the trick. I'm guessing it's because I'd installed the Cyberlink mux earlier and that had messed up the other filters.

Anyway, GBPVR now opens fine, but Live TV says "Entering Timeshift Mode" then nothing happens. If I try to play recordings I get a long pause, then just a black screen (with the GBPVR interface round the edge). I seem to have a lot of logs, so I've zipped them all. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Since you're using DVR-MS files, you have to use the File Sharing option, not the Streaming option.

From the release notes:
sub Wrote:
2006-8-8 v0.98.8
- Added PC client support. To install a client, do a normal install, then on the capture source page of the config app, tick the 'act as client' tick box and key in the server name. You can select to use either streaming or file sharing for playback. The File Sharing option is required if you're using DVR-MS files. I highly recommend the use of the SQLite database on the server if you want to run a client/server setup, it performs much better.
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