Setting Up Channels

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Reading this I would say for example lets say your provider has ESPN on ch33 you would change the source channel to 33 and also change it in the channel number column under the channel tab to the same. I take it that the number in the channel tab is what you would enter on you remote to tune to the channel and the order it shows in the guide and the source channel is the the station number picked up by my tuner.

Correct

Typicaly you would want these to match

In his case yes. Outside of US/Canada these would typcially be different.

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... Tool freq2reg.exe creates a registry file from a text file like presets.txt, and tool freq2xml.exe takes the same text file, but produces an XMLTV file with only channel elements (and no EPG data) which makes it very easy to put your channels in GB-PVR in the order you want. ...

There are a few different methods given. The utility is at the bottom of the page. Sorry, I should have been more specific about that. Easy, yes. Simple, no. It enables users to create a simple channel config file. The app phrases the data into a channels-only xml file (to help setup correct channel numbers [...I think] and create an app to add that same information to the registry (overriding channel frequencies for tuners like mine). However, the frequencies (in Hz) seem way off and occasionally repeated, regardless of what values I set (not exactly part of this support-discussion tho).

I'm not sure who wrote that utility or added that info on the wiki. Its certainly not the steps I would have recommended.

you'd probably want these channel to match in both places

I assume you're talking about the identical "Channel Name" = "Channel Number" pattern. Noted, but I don't know why this should be.

Yes, in a US analog TV setup (without addition TV sources to confuse matters), you'd typically have the same channel name = channel number list in both the capture source channel list, and the main channels tab.

I'm going to change gears a bit, as I think our discussion keeps getting off track.
Please-please-please forgive my bluntness.

• If I'm going to re-define the channel order listed in the EPG, which dialog must I use?
  
  
• If I'm going to match MY channels up with someone else's EPG (cause my service doesn't have an EPG), then which dialog must I use? I strongly suspect the "edit recording source" dialog but I still don't know what object "channel source" is meant to define (the channel from the turner or the downloaded EPG channel).
  

See commensts at the bottom.

I must sound like an idiot; I am really tired. You know what someone like me could really use? A data dictionary to this app that explains the dev's interpretation for these terms. Rhetorical question...

Given the number of US users we already have and the lack of problem reports or questions about this over the last three years, I dont think its required.

I'm sure you're picturing this as more complicated than it really is. Most US just create a capture source, select their card type, key in their zap2it/SchedulesDirect username+password, then they're good to go - no having to edit channel numbers or run utilities or anything like that.

This are also more complex outside the US where the RF channel number (from the capture source channel list) does not match the channel number you'd push on the remote to view that channel.

This is sort-of what I'm talking about. My channels are starting at #1. Clearly I don't have Channel "1", so this is actually my provider's Ch 2, and 2 is actually 3, and so on...

A similar affect can be seen with the Comcast's EPG's TV Guide (cause my cable service is a cheap/lame private company that doesn't have this). My Ch2 is Comcast's Ch 13. Only 7 Comcast channels match up with mine; the rest seem to be randomized numbers (ch 20 through 100). So, I'll need to fix this as well.

Starting from an empty database, and ignoring whatever you've been doing up until now, I would import a real EPG from schedules direct, or an XMLTV source, even if its a superset of the channels you have available. In the capture source channel list I'd then disable the channels that are not available through your cable company. The channel numbers in this list would need to be set to match the RF channel your broadcaster transmits on (ie, the RF channel the PVR150 will need to tune to get that channel).

Lastly go to the main channels list tab and key in the channel numbers that you want to use to change to those channels. These can be any numbers you want, and will ultimately dicate the order the channels are listed in the TV Guide, and are the numbers you punch in on the remote. Most people in a US cable setup would automatically have these channel numbers matching the channel numbers in the capture source channel list, but you dont have to do that if you think your cable company has used a stupid order or numbering scheme.

Trust me, its not as complex as you're imagining.

[Takkun]

I spent some time testing only 3 channels and seemed to have figured it out.

Thanks dark_half, but its actually the other way around. If the EPG shows channel 33 as ESPN, the you need to figure out which channel ESPN is being broadcasted on then change its "channel source" value to that. This moves the broadcast to the EPG's channel.

I doubt the other way around is possible as of "1.0.16" (w/out additionally changing each channel's number in the channel tab). Not user-friendly but at least it's solved!

Potential WIKI Submission: http://forums.gbpvr.com/showpost.php?p=224704

Thanks guys, for all the assistance.

[Takkun]

Not difficult, but a lot of tedious typing is involved (prone to typing errors and missed channels).

Yes, I completed the setup as you described. The channels are re-ordered but the numbers remain. Perhaps that will change after a full reboot. For the moment, assuming I didn't type-in any large mistakes, I don't care about the channel numbers right now.

Thanks again guys