Installation improvements

[mvallevand]

Martin...here we go...ran through this today....very good...hope this helps!

Thanks everything helps

Instead of just a single text box for the MAC could it be broken up into the pairs i.e. xx xx xx xx xx xx since that is how it is displayed in PCH?

The scripts will be made available when MixMan has some repo set up. This is too much work for me. Dialogs are not straight forward in NSIS

Install process (not so smooth):
Hung when downloading PVRX2
Hung when downloading Mayhem3

This sounds like network problems

Some suggestions from above walk-through:

• Provide either auto-firewall configuration in install or provide instructions on what how to set what ports need to be exposed

This is really GBPVR configuration but are you saying that the two entries weren't added to the firewall?

Provide instructions for activating a share on Vista including turing off password protected shareing

Provide instructions for handling the password protection not being able to be turned off in Vista

The availability of Guest share is a requirement for this installer. I will make that clearer. Here is the link on the NMT forums I will add

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showth...6#pid41586

Martin

[UncleJohnsBand]

Thanks everything helpsMartin

Great....

The scripts will be made available when MixMan has some repo set up. This is too much work for me. Dialogs are not straight forward in NSIS

Ok

This sounds like network problems

Not sure....this is the only time I have ever had a problem with installing anything on my Vista Machine....that includes installers that download like this one does.

This is really GBPVR configuration but are you saying that the two entries weren't added to the firewall?

Entries were added....but I had to manually add the GBPVR ports and programme to the Firewall (I had to do this for my production XP machine as well).

Ports 7967, 7968, 7647
Program: pvrx2

With the above in place I can have the firewall on and use GBPVR running on Vista via the PCH without an issue.

The availability of Guest share is a requirement for this installer. I will make that clearer. Here is the link on the NMT forums I will add

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showth...6#pid41586

Martin

Ok...you may want to add the tip about running the cmd line net user Guest "" which will correct the issue for people (like me) that had the guest account password protected (someway/somehow...)

[mvallevand]

Great....
Not sure....this is the only time I have ever had a problem with installing anything on my Vista Machine....that includes installers that download like this one does.

Here is the control I have over the download, I have not had one download fail

Code:

NSISdl::download http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Skin/Mayhem3?action=downloadman&upname=Skin.Mayhem3.zip $2

Entries were added....but I had to manually add the GBPVR ports and programme to the Firewall (I had to do this for my production XP machine as well).

Ports 7967, 7968, 7647
Program: pvrx2

With the above in place I can have the firewall on and use GBPVR running on Vista via the PCH without an issue.

I have never had to install ports, adding the .exe files should be enough. I still am unclear if pvrx2 was added by the installer.

Ok...you may want to add the tip about running the cmd line net user Guest "" which will correct the issue for people (like me) that had the guest account password protected (someway/somehow...)

I will look into that command net user guest I don't use it.

Thanks,

Martin

[jksmurf]

• Nice installer, but I am getting errors when installing the skins and plugins and updates as well as PCH. Not sure where the logs are?
  
• I "think" I got past this by closing the GBPVR rec service?
  
• Why do you have to choose the mvpmc share when just installing updates or skins+plugins? It would be nice not to have to do this step when NOT choosing any PCH install components?
  
• No UNC Paths allowed for install? I have a longish path to my extg share C:\Program Files\Devnz\GBPVR\Dongle\mvpmc\
  
• The GBPVR updates PVRX2.zip and NativeUtils.Zip were not deleted from the mvpmc share although the details suggested they should have been?
  

k.


btw "II. Test Connection" Instructions, I think new users would benefit from being told the html file name to select (from the fourth option), to run GBPVR i.e. GB-PVR.html as I have a bunch of older files in there, like telnet etc etc :-) ?

[mvallevand]

Hi k,

• Nice installer, but I am getting errors when installing the skins and plugins and updates as well as PCH. Not sure where the logs are?

I have uploaded a newer version with some pauses, after the unzip with an error check. It think there is an overlap in the unzip and copy processes causing this. There are no logs written yet, the detail were supposed to be the log, I never ran into the situation where the installer hung

I "think" I got past this by closing the GBPVR rec service?

Probably not, the shell copy doesn't copy new file so the timing problem was removed. The installer shuts off the service anyway.

Why do you have to choose the mvpmc share when just installing updates or skins+plugins? It would be nice not to have to do this step when NOT choosing any PCH install components?

I store a copy of all downloads in the mvpmc share so they don't get downloaded a second time.

No UNC Paths allowed for install? I have a longish path to my extg share C:\Program Files\Devnz\GBPVR\Dongle\mvpmc\

It should, did you try to browse to it, or use auto completion, it just doesn't like the root directory.

The GBPVR updates PVRX2.zip and Native
Utils.Zip were not deleted from the mvpmc share although the details suggested they should have been?
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These should stay as I said above, you probably saw the temp files being deleted.

btw "II. Test Connection" Instructions, I think new users would benefit from being told the html file name to select (from the fourth option), to run GBPVR i.e. GB-PVR.html as I have a bunch of older files in there, like telnet etc etc :-) ?

I did write "select and run GB-PVR" I will see if I can figure out something clearer.

Thanks

Martin

[mvallevand]

UJB, I tried 5 installs from scratch with VPC and I definitely did not have to open specific ports. I also decided against enabling global guest access because I found using the Network and Sharing Center on Vista trivial, I didn't need to go to the command prompt at all.

Martin

[jksmurf]

Hi k,
I have uploaded a newer version with some pauses, after the unzip with an error check. It think there is an overlap in the unzip and copy processes causing this. There are no logs written yet, the detail were supposed to be the log, I never ran into the situation where the installer hung

Hmm... tried the newer version, same hang when I choose ONLY "Install updates" in the 1st GBPVR section, and all "Skins and Plugins" and "Online Update" and uncheck everything else.

Probably not, the shell copy doesn't copy new file so the timing problem was removed. The installer shuts off the service anyway.

OK

I store a copy of all downloads in the mvpmc share so they don't get downloaded a second time.

Ah I see, OK.

It should, did you try to browse to it, or use auto completion, it just doesn't like the root directory.

Browse to it.

These should stay as I said above, you probably saw the temp files being deleted.

OK

I did write "select and run GB-PVR" I will see if I can figure out something clearer.

OK.

k.

[UncleJohnsBand]

UJB, I tried 5 installs from scratch with VPC and I definitely did not have to open specific ports. I also decided against enabling global guest access because I found using the Network and Sharing Center on Vista trivial, I didn't need to go to the command prompt at all.

Martin

As for the ports vs. just pvrx2 you appear to be correct. I have reduced my exceptions down to just pvrx2 being in the exception list and appear to be working fine.

However, pvrx2 was not added to the exceptions in windows firewall during the install.....I had to manually add it.

As for the enabling global guest access.....not sure how to handle that one. I never (have been using Vista for 2 years now) set anything on the guest account but apparently it was setup with something since I could not turn off password protection on shares....whether they are just read or if they are read or write.

If I had a problem...I am sure someone else will as well and may not be as technically savvy on figuring out how to fix the problem.

If your shares (read or write) require a password then accessing GBPVR via PCH will not work.

Perhaps some people's Guest account was initialized without a password and therefore by default they can turn on/off password required on the share from the get-go.

I can (and have) set password required on the few other shares that I had on the machine (post this install) so does not mean you have global access set.....it does mean that you need to make sure your shares are each protected the way you want them to be.

I think this will be a bug for some....if not included in general instructions then perhaps a survival guide (like GBPVR has) that provides this tidbit would be benificial....i.e.

[INDENT]If you are running Vista and your mvpmc share is not shared automatically during the install you may need to manually set the folder as shared (then provide instructions for doing that).

Then provide instructions for opening up a command window and issuing the command that rests the Guest account back to not having a password set if they can not turn off password protection on the folder.

[/INDENT]Just a thought...doesn't matter to me.

[mvallevand]

@jksmurf I am trying another d/l plugin for NSIS. I think the dialog must be losing focus, I tried about 10 times and I could duplicate it but not anymore.

@ujb, it is possible to configure the share for password access but that would be too hard to support. I will add some kind of a note, even though this isn't new this time around.

Martin

[psycik]

mvallevand, with this work when you already have scripts etc? Ie wont break anything?

I like the idea of the one option on the telnet screen