Holland Ziggo Digital HD TV

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Is there a transponderlist for the Netherlands (Ziggo) which can help GBPVR to install the channels?
Has anyone experiance with GBPVR, Ziggo and FloppyDTV and has it running (preferable with all the channels incl. HD)?

There's no transponder list, but you can make one yourself. However, it's not going to work in GBPVR since there's no support for encrypted channels, and most of Ziggo's channels are encrypted. The only way to decrypt them in GBPVR is by using Multidec (Acamd plugin), but like I said before, I never got it working stable enought.

Chris

[-=TJ=-Stefan]

There's no transponder list, but you can make one yourself. However, it's not going to work in GBPVR since there's no support for encrypted channels, and most of Ziggo's channels are encrypted. The only way to decrypt them in GBPVR is by using Multidec (Acamd plugin), but like I said before, I never got it working stable enought.

Chris

Tnx for the comment. Unstable is not an option. Sure it can crash now and then. It is a machine. But unstable sounds irritating.

Maybe it also sounds like the end of the line for GBPVR for me. Not because of GBPVR but because of Ziggo. I love GBPVR. I waited a long time before doing anything with digital TV. No need for it. Analoge was fine. Now I have a flatscreen and thought it's about time. It turnes out that digital TV is a lot of hassle with a mediacenter. Sure you can use the standard solutions but that is.... well... standard.... Damn I hate it when that happens. :mad:

Oh well... Maybe Sub can shine some light of this problem. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has Ziggo or want to watch encrypted (pay per view) channels. I'm glad I borrowed a FloppyDTV instead of buying one or two.... :p

Will continue to hunt for solutions when I have some time. Will keep you posted. I hope more people react to share their findings with Ziggo and FloppyDTV.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You might want to check out Mediaportal as well. It has very good support for floppyDTV and Ziggo. Setup a big server upstairs with two FloppyDTV's and than maybe you could setup a small PC by the TV as a client, for instance the Asus B206 (not great for HD though, better clients are on the way I believe).

Chris

[sub]

I dont usually comment about features in the next release, but the next release does support the CI interface on the Hauppauge WinTV-CI, FireDTV, Twinhan and TechnoTrend devices, which may help you with your setup.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Wow, that's great news. Thanks for this info, sub.

Chris

[-=TJ=-Stefan]

I dont usually comment about features in the next release, but the next release does support the CI interface on the Hauppauge WinTV-CI, FireDTV, Twinhan and TechnoTrend devices, which may help you with your setup.

Grin... tnx.. you can guess the next question

[-=TJ=-Stefan]

I've recently read an article about PCH C-200. It has an option to buy a Blu-Ray player with it. That makes it (for me) an interesting option. The config I'm thinking about is:

1 Pentium IV, 3.0Ghz with 2GB RAM and plenty of storage (SATA1), 2 Hauppauge PVR 150 PCI cards. It runs on Windows 2008 server and GBPVR on it. This server is already in place. (Well allmost I'm replacing upgrading the current P4 server Windows 2003 server within a few weeks. In the future I can add one or more than one FloppyDTV on this machine.)

I now have 2 MVP (livingroom and master bedroom). I'm thinking of replacing them with the PCH C-200. The livingroom C-200 with a BD player in it and the masterbedroom C-200 it depends on the cost of the BD player. I can start with one and do the bedroom later. I have CAT5e cable throughout the house. I will upgrade to a 1gb switch soon so that would be enough.

Anyone any comments on suggested config please let me know. As far as I understand I can still use GBPVR an benefit from the better quality of a PCH. I'm curious to learn if you out there think if this is a good idea and if I can easily connect PCH C-200 to GBPVR.

Tnx in advance..

[mvallevand]

This is not a good thread to post PCH questions I almost missed it. mvpmcx2 won't currently run on the C-200 and while I will get one because I want BD I don't have high hopes that it will. I might turn my focus from GBPVR too I've got the feeling that GBPVR users don't really want an extender and this one will be pricey.

As for the BD drive it is standard SATA 1/2 ht, which I can get them locally for $80 so their prices are dropping. If you aren't considering a BD drive an EGreat M34a or a PCH is probably more practical and affordable.

Martin

[-=TJ=-Stefan]

Thnx for the reply. This thread started out as a question about Digital TV in The Netherlands and what way to go. The C-200 just recently came up.

I'm not sure if you're right when saying GBPVR users do not want media extenders. I'm sure a lot of people connect their HTPC with GBPV directly to the TV and only need one of them. I on the other hand want to use the central storage for mulitple purposes (files, pictures, music, tv recordings, etc.) and use an extender to use those files. I use a PC for my email, gaming, letters, etc. my girlfirend has her own PC and we use an extender for watching (recorded) TV.

A HTPC connected directly to the tv is an option but also an expensive option. Around 700 euro (around 1000 US dollar). And that leaves me with a masterbedroom hardware puzzle to solve. I like to watch live tv, a recording or a DVD in my bedroom. I only have network in the bedroom that is why I use a MVP and a seperate DVD player now.

I'm finished with MVP. It is slow, picture qualitiy does not mach my current needs so I'm looking for a new solution. I also want to watch Blu-ray in the livingroom. I can buy a seperate BD player around 350 euro but I also want to upgrade MVP so I can still use GBPVR. So I'm looking for a smart combination. The C-200 sounded like one until you stated that it probably won't connect to GBPVR.

I really like GBPVR because I also can program my PVR through the internet. That is a really neat option. And many more options are nice to have.

Like said before in this thread a Humax 5050c and a seperate BD player will do the trick also. Still need to solve the bedroom hardware. But then I would have to leave GBPVR. Sub stated that FloppyDTV will be supported in the future so even with Digital TV I can still use GBPVR.

You said that you probably have to leave GBPVR also. What direction are you thinking about? How will you record your TV shows and watch them in the future?

I've looked at Windows 7 mediacenter which is nice. But then I would have to build a HTPC and make that the central point of files, pictures, music, etc. and kill the Windows server. It is an option. Any idea how to connect the bedroom to Windows 7 mediacenter?

I'm curious what solutions are there to solve my puzzle. I will figure it out but could use some help on selecting the correct hardware.... :-)

[mvallevand]

You said that you probably have to leave GBPVR also. What direction are you thinking about? How will you record your TV shows and watch them in the future?

I am not leaving GPBVR and mvpmcx2 will still get a lot of attention. What I meant was I am not going to be porting this code to too many new players, the NMT solution is probably more complete than most future platforms and I don't want to confuse people with choices.

I expect to use GBPVR occasionally as I always have for recording shows when the 2 tuners one my STB are in use, or for watching LiveTV and listening to music while I work on the desktop.

What I expect to do now is create a SqueezeCenter client. There seems to be more demand from NMT users and I don't expect it to be too hard.

Martin