Recording Error Message

[HydeTheDarkerSide]

Have set both server and laptop copies of NPVR to be "clients" with Server as "Server", because that is how it's named. Then Database share is set to "\\server\Recorded TV\npvr". But both installations of NPVR are reporting they cannot find the database at \\server\Recorded TV\npvr\npvr.db3

I'm obviously doing something wrong, not least because that .db file must have been created before I clicked the client option. Can I just move it from wherever it gets created on it's local drive to the network share? If so, where is it located please?

[edit]Found it and moved it to the share. Also found out that I need to create the folder stated in the Database share field as simply putting in this string doesn't make NPVR create the folder. So both installations of NPVR are working without kicking up that error message and the laptop version can now see the recordings made with the server copy :-)

Just trying to play my earlier recording but currently NPVR is saying not responding. Will post back in a few minutes with further results.

[HydeTheDarkerSide]

NPVR just sits there doing nothing???

[Graham]

Have set both server and laptop copies of NPVR to be "clients" with Server as "Server", because that is how it's named.

The machine that is attached to the tuner(s) is a "server". Do not tick "act as client" on this machine. This machine expects the npvr.db3 to be in the default location. For Windows 7, this is Users\Public\NPVR. Do not move npvr.db3 away from the default location on the "server".

The "client" machine(s) need to access the npvr.db3 file that is on the "server" machine. The "client" machines accesses the npvr.db3 using a Windows "share". Create a share on the "server" machine that points to the folder that contains npvr.db3. Ensure that the firewalls on both the server and the client allow nrecord.exe and npvr.exe full access in every possible direction for every possible port.

[HydeTheDarkerSide]

Hmmm, not sure that's recommended on the WHS. It doesn't normally share anything on the primary OS drive, only the shares. And in any event I'd already set things up contrary to the advice above before you posted, sorry. I can put things back if needed and attempt to share out C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\NPVR on the server but I need to read up first to make sure this doesn't break a WHS.

I can set recordings from the laptop client (nice!) but clicking live TV gave me...

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System.Net.Sockets.SocketException (0x80004005): A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond 192.168.1.33:8968

Server stack trace:
at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.DoConnect(EndPoint endPointSnapshot, SocketAddress socketAddress)
at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Connect(EndPoint remoteEP)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.RemoteConnection.CreateNewSocket(EndPoint ipEndPoint)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.RemoteConnection.CreateNewSocket()
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.RemoteConnection.GetSocket()
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.SocketCache.GetSocket(String machinePortAndSid, Boolean openNew)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpClientTransportSink.SendRequestWithRetry(IMessage msg, ITransportHeaders requestHeaders, Stream requestStream)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpClientTransportSink.ProcessMessage(IMessage msg, ITransportHeaders requestHeaders, Stream requestStream, ITransportHeaders& responseHeaders, Stream& responseStream)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.BinaryClientFormatterSink.SyncProcessMessage(IMessage msg)

Exception rethrown at [0]:
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.HandleReturnMessage(IMessage reqMsg, IMessage retMsg)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.PrivateInvoke(MessageData& msgData, Int32 type)
at NShared.IRecordingService.GetExtraInfo(String key, String extra)
at NextPVR.Players.LiveTvPlayer.StartLiveTV(Channel channel, String& reason)
at NextPVR.Players.LiveTvPlayer.StartLiveTV(String& reason)
at NextPVR.ControllerForm.PlayLiveTV()
at NextPVR.Menu.Vertical.HandleMenuItem(String menuItem)
at NextPVR.Menu.Vertical.OnClick(PointF location)
at NextPVR.ControllerForm.ControllerForm_MouseClick(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseClick(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
at NextPVR.ControllerForm.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
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The application must also be compiled with debugging
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For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

[Graham]

I can put things back if needed ...

NextPVR on the "server" will look for npvr.db3 in the default folder. How will NextPVR on the "server" update the npvr.db3 when the "server" records something if you have moved the file? The location of the data folder is specified in the registry ...

Code:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NPVR]
"DataDirectory"="C:\\Users\\Public\\NPVR"

If you feel that you must ... you could try updating the registry on the "server" to point someplace else ... but you will need to move all files in the data folder on the "server" ... and this may well break something else.

[stustunz]

So you have a recording
if you copy the file onto the laptop will it play?

Do not go moving npvr files that it installed this will break the install (if it was me i would uninstall now and start over if you have)

The server as said before is the machine with tuners installed
client is the machine that accesses the computer that does the recording and needs full access to the npvr folders (needs read and write access)

When set up as a client it uses the npvr.db3 from the server to show recordings on the recording screen within npvr

You also need to install video audio decoders what do you have these set to?( on client laptop) post screen shot decoders in settings

[HydeTheDarkerSide]

I'll uninstall and start again, if only to prove I can get a playable file. Although, if NPVR doesn't support clients from the shares on the WHS I suspect this will become a show stopper for me :-(

[HydeTheDarkerSide]

Reinstalled with all standard defaults. Reset recording and media file paths to the open shares and I can record an HD broadcast and play it back on my laptop using VLC MP. Playback can pixelate, not sure yet if that's the tuner or playing back the file on my laptop over Wi-Fi. Will copy it locally and see if still happens.

Still researching if there are any issues with opening up folders on the primary WHS OS drive. As it's WHS v1.1, coverage of issues is a bit thin these days as the OS is now very old hat. Waiting for Windows 9 before jumping back into this OS and will go the full blown HTPC route.

[edit]Still get error message when attempting to play the same file via RDP session on the WHS. So is this due to lack of Video/Audio capabilities?

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at VideoRendererEVR.ShowOSD(HBITMAP__* hbitmap)
at Native.PlaybackNative.SetOSD(Bitmap osdImage)
at NextPVR.Players.PlaybackProxyFactory.SetOSD(List`1 renderList)
at NextPVR.Players.BasePlayer.RefeshOSD()
at NextPVR.Players.VideoPlayer.RefeshOSD()
at NextPVR.ControllerForm.timer1_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

[stustunz]

You dont really need to share the whole folder just the Npvr.db3 has to be read/write (i just find it easier to share the whole folder as i can add fixes etc)

[HydeTheDarkerSide]

It's more the case of sharing using the features of the actual underlying OS (Server 2003) than the WHS overlay. The DriveExtender doesn't like being bypassed. So if you can't achieve a share using the WHS console, chances are you'll break something else. Doesn't matter if it's a file or a folder. I just need the time to do some more research first.