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Hauppauge Win-TV DCR-2650 in Settings>Devices : 'No' under 'Present' column

Hauppauge Win-TV DCR-2650 in Settings>Devices : 'No' under 'Present' column
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2015-07-31, 06:27 AM
Jim Dale Wrote:Hmm... The Bulk Map ignores anything I try to do, though. I've tried everything and cannot get it to copy anything. Even if I set individual ones within it, they disappear when I exit Bulk Map. I guess it's not intended for copying the DVB/ATSC EPG?
It's not clear what you're trying to do. Can you describe in more detail? It almost sounds like you're trying to set it to 'DVB/ATSC EPG'.

After your initial scan, your channels will already be to set to 'DVB/ATSC EPG'. Unfortunately this is next to useless in the USA, where they only broadcast a few hours of listings over antenna, and usually no listings at all on digital cable. I'd expect you'd only be going into bulk map when you're ready to move to either Schedules Direct or and xmltv source (like mc2xml). Is this what you're trying to do?
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2015-07-31, 07:30 AM
sub Wrote:It's not clear what you're trying to do. Can you describe in more detail? It almost sounds like you're trying to set it to 'DVB/ATSC EPG'.
Well, I understand about the DWB/ATSC EPG being n/a to my location, but let's set that aside for now. I'm just trying to understand the mechanics of the Bulk Map. When you say ...
sub Wrote:...After your initial scan, your channels will already be to set to 'DVB/ATSC EPG'.
... well, that doesn't work on my installation. (Let's pretend for now that I'm trying to set it to something more appropriate to N.America.) After my initial scan, the EPG on all my channels is set to None.

Apparently (from what you and others have said) there is some way to use Bulk Map to change the settings on multiple channels, but I've poked around on it and tried everything I can think of but cannot find any way of doing so. HOW do you do that? (Let's say, for example, that I'm trying to set them all to Schedules Direct ... How do I set them all that way without spending hours setting each one individually?)

When I click the Bulk Map button, it brings up that Bulk Map window but offers me no apparent way of doing that. Even if I set some of them (to whatever), when I exit Bulk Map it sets them back like I never changed them.
(I appreciate the time you're spending helping me with this.)
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2015-07-31, 07:49 AM
Jim Dale Wrote:... well, that doesn't work on my installation. (Let's pretend for now that I'm trying to set it to something more appropriate to N.America.) After my initial scan, the EPG on all my channels is set to None.
True, a CableCard device will have the EPG set to 'None' after the initial scan, since there is definitely no EPG available.

Quote:Apparently (from what you and others have said) there is some way to use Bulk Map to change the settings on multiple channels, but I've poked around on it and tried everything I can think of but cannot find any way of doing so. HOW do you do that? (Let's say, for example, that I'm trying to set them all to Schedules Direct ... How do I set them all that way without spending hours setting each one individually?)

When I click the Bulk Map button, it brings up that Bulk Map window but offers me no apparent way of doing that. Even if I set some of them (to whatever), when I exit Bulk Map it sets them back like I never changed them.
(I appreciate the time you're spending helping me with this.)
Do you actually have a Schedules Direct account? You can't do the mapping before you get a Schedules Direct account.

If so, go to the Settings->Channels screen, and double click a channel, and manually set it's EPG source to Schedules Direct. If it's the first time you've done this, you'll need to select 'manage lineups' from the dropdown, and login, and add your lineup (by entering your zipcode and selecting from lineups in your area). You should now see the list of channel mappings available in Schedules Direct. Make that first mapping.

After this, you'll now be able to use Bulk Map (since it now knows about your Schedules Direct lineups). Just do the mapping for the first channel, by selecting 'Schedules Direct' in the EPG Source column, and selecting the channel you'd like to map it to. It'll then ask you if you'd like it to attempt to do the rest of the mappings for you. Hit OK.
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2015-07-31, 10:57 AM
sub Wrote:Do you actually have a Schedules Direct account? You can't do the mapping before you get a Schedules Direct account.
OK ... so that feature is only intended for Schedules Direct ... which (as I'm slowly learning) would really be the only option in this continent anyway. Thanks.

I've gone thru all the Audio Decoders, but still get no Audio via NextPVR ,,, yet I am getting it thru HDHomeRun.
My monitor is really an HD Television and my only speakers are those built into that TV.
The audio & video signal is fed to it via HD cable, of course.

I don't really care if I get the audio coming out of NextPRV, however.
The true target is Kodi.
I just need both the audio & video to successfully feed into Kodi.
No tuner signal is successfully getting to Kodi yet, however.
When I try to tune in a channel on Kodi, it struggles and then tells me the NextPVR tuner connection has been lost.
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2015-07-31, 07:35 PM
Jim Dale Wrote:OK ... so that feature is only intended for Schedules Direct ...
You said Schedules Direct, which is why I gave it as the example. It'd pretty much be the same steps with xml tv though (instead you'd be browsing to your .xml file instead of supplying you Schedules Direct login).

Quote:which (as I'm slowly learning) would really be the only option in this continent anyway.
There is a lot of people in that part of the world also using xmltv.

Quote:I've gone thru all the Audio Decoders, but still get no Audio via NextPVR ,,, yet I am getting it thru HDHomeRun.
My monitor is really an HD Television and my only speakers are those built into that TV.
The audio & video signal is fed to it via HD cable, of course.
It's almost certainly down to the audio decoders you have selected on the Settings->Decoders screen. In your case, it's probably the AC3 decoder. What do you have selected.

Quote:I don't really care if I get the audio coming out of NextPRV, however.
The true target is Kodi.
I just need both the audio & video to successfully feed into Kodi.
Kodi has it's own decoders, so decoders selected in NextPVR aren't used when you're watching via kodi. In this setup, kodi is just passed the original stream, and it decodes it itself.
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2015-08-01, 02:35 AM
sub Wrote:You said Schedules Direct, which is why I gave it as the example. It'd pretty much be the same steps with xml tv though (instead you'd be browsing to your .xml file instead of supplying you Schedules Direct login).

There is a lot of people in that part of the world also using xmltv.
Oh ... good to know. I don't know one from the other, but I'll get there eventually.

sub Wrote:It's almost certainly down to the audio decoders you have selected on the Settings->Decoders screen. In your case, it's probably the AC3 decoder. What do you have selected.
I've tried/tested all of these that appear in the list, but none work.

o Hauppauge AC3 Decoder
o ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD
o Microsoft DTV-DVD Audia Decoder
o Hauppauge E-AC3 Decoder

My audio needs to feed over the HD cable to the TV (used as a monitor)

sub Wrote:Kodi has it's own decoders, so decoders selected in NextPVR aren't used when you're watching via kodi. In this setup, kodi is just passed the original stream, and it decodes it itself.
Good! ... Now, if I can only get Kodi to connect to the tuners ...

Are all those Server Port numbers (ie 7799, 8866, etc.) supposed to match between NextPVR vs Kodi vs HDHomeRun vs WinTV 8 ... ?

My Number of servers is also sitting at 0. Should I change that?

Thanks.
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2015-08-01, 03:52 AM
Jim Dale Wrote:I've tried/tested all of these that appear in the list, but none work.

o Hauppauge AC3 Decoder
o ArcSoft Audio Decoder HD
o Microsoft DTV-DVD Audia Decoder
o Hauppauge E-AC3 Decoder
It might not be decoders then. Instead of live tv, can you try doing a short recording, then playing that - does this audio? If you then play that recording in another player (like VLC), does it give audio?


Quote:Good! ... Now, if I can only get Kodi to connect to the tuners ...

Are all those Server Port numbers (ie 7799, 8866, etc.) supposed to match between NextPVR vs Kodi vs HDHomeRun vs WinTV 8 ... ?
You shouldn't have to change any port numbers in the Kodi NextPVR addon, or NextPVR settings. The defaults are correct in both, ie 8866.

You could try opening http://localhost:8866 on your server to make sure the web server is running correctly.

Quote:My Number of servers is also sitting at 0. Should I change that?
No, that's only for MVP/NMT clients.
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2015-08-01, 06:00 PM (This post was last modified: 2015-08-01, 06:05 PM by Jim Dale.)
sub Wrote:Instead of live tv, can you try doing a short recording, then playing that - does this audio?
I found the option to record on NextPVR. Doing that now...

sub Wrote:You shouldn't have to change any port numbers in the Kodi NextPVR addon, or NextPVR settings. The defaults are correct in both, ie 8866.
In the earlier days when I was trying to get this to work, I saw that Kodi responded better (don't recall how) when I change it from 8866 to 7799.
So, later in the struggle, I tried changing NextPVR to be 7799 also.

Up until now, they both seemed to work better that way rather than with 8866.
When, on your suggestion, I tried opening http://localhost:8866, the browser told me it couldn't find it.
When I did the same for 7799, however, I get a screen of channels from Hauppauge that I'd never seen before. (My TV tuners are Hauppauge.)

BUT ...

I still changed both back to 8866, did a Stop and a Start on NextPVR ... and BINGO !
No effect on NextPVR, but now Kodi can tune in channels.

sub Wrote:You could try opening http://localhost:8866 on your server to make sure the web server is running correctly.
As I said earlier, I initially got nothing when I tried this ... but now it shows up with a TV Guide screen from NextPVR (although it's still missing all channels).
I don't know how that "localhost" address works, but I guess it refers to some "local" address on my PC and thus didn't find anything a minute earlier because I hadn't yet ran NextPVR with that address?

On both NextPVR and Kodi, if I try to tune in something like HBO (which I am subscribed to and WMC can tune into) ... they both lock up forever.

I'm trying to get XMLTV installed, but their README instructions leave one in total mystery. Still searching ...

Making progress!!! Thanks for the help!
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2015-08-01, 07:59 PM
Jim Dale Wrote:As I said earlier, I initially got nothing when I tried this ... but now it shows up with a TV Guide screen from NextPVR (although it's still missing all channels).
Can you post a screenshot of what you get?

Quote:On both NextPVR and Kodi, if I try to tune in something like HBO (which I am subscribed to and WMC can tune into) ... they both lock up forever.
HBO is almost certainly a copy-once/copy-never channel (ie, DRM protected), so not accessible from NextPVR. You could only view that channel from WMC.
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