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2019-09-18, 07:13 AM
Some references from the web:
https://emby.media/community/index.php?/...t-lineups/ http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewto...=15&t=2954
2019-09-18, 07:39 AM
Ok, I think I got it. What I didn't realize is that NextPVR was attempting to ADD a lineup to my SD account, not just associate an existing lineup with my tuner. It was probably failing, in the beginning because my account already had the lineup.
To add to the confusion, NextPVR does seem to query SD for what lineups are associated with your account, and present them in the dialog, thus existing lineups can be selecting without adding. But when it presents them in the dialog, it presents them like "USA-OR66946-X", which I did not recognize, as this tag is not otherwise presented to the user (I knew it as "Frontier Fios - Digital" or something like that). So I didn't have any idea what USA-OR66946-X was, until I saw that tag in the log, and realized that it corresponded to my Frontier lineup. Also I notice that there are four lineups presented by NextPVR in the dialog, although Schedules Direct showed only one - ah, but when I hit "Report Lineup Problem", it shows four. So they're confused, I have four, and that may also be the reason why "Add" didn't work, because only four are permitted by SD. I don't see any way to delete one from either interface, so I'm not sure what the recovery method is if you already have four so you can't add another. I think this points to a bug in NextPVR, presenting the tag in the dialog instead of the actual name of the lineup. If it had shown the lineup name I would have immediately chosen that, not tried to "Add". Also it might have shortened the diagnosis time if the message from SD had been reflected in the error message. So after choosing the tag name, it all updates properly and I have EPG data, Yay! But I still get only one frame of video. Boo!
2019-09-18, 08:47 AM
How are you looking at the lineup? For the third time I am telling you the web site shows does not show the ones NextPVR uses.
Martin
2019-09-18, 03:23 PM
TheFritz Wrote:Ok, I think I got it. What I didn't realize is that NextPVR was attempting to ADD a lineup to my SD account, not just associate an existing lineup with my tuner. It was probably failing, in the beginning because my account already had the lineup. In the beginning was Schedules Direct that required you to go in through their website and select a lineup (or several) that would be associated with your login. The configuration in NextPVR allowed you to select the lineup that you wanted from the lineups that you had previously selected via the SD webpages. But that was then. This is now. SD have added a new process for selecting lineups. You do not have to do anything at the SD website. You enter the parameters (such as your country or zipcode or whatever) in the NextPVR configuration and NextPVR retrieves a list of lineups that match the parameters entered into NextPVR. But ... the original mechanism still exists on the SD website for the users of PVR software from the olden days. It might be that you are entering parameters into the SD website and setting up lineups and then entering the same parameters into NextPVR and getting the same lineups. I suspect that you can get where you want to be by logging into the SD website and deleting all of your lineups and then doing all of the configuring and whatnot within NextPVR.
2019-09-18, 05:52 PM
TheFritz Wrote:Ok, I think I got it. What I didn't realize is that NextPVR was attempting to ADD a lineup to my SD account, not just associate an existing lineup with my tuner. It was probably failing, in the beginning because my account already had the lineup.Ah, I was able to reproduce the problem by trying to add a lineup I already had. Quote:To add to the confusion, NextPVR does seem to query SD for what lineups are associated with your account, and present them in the dialog, thus existing lineups can be selecting without adding. But when it presents them in the dialog, it presents them like "USA-OR66946-X", which I did not recognize, as this tag is not otherwise presented to the user (I knew it as "Frontier Fios - Digital" or something like that). So I didn't have any idea what USA-OR66946-X was, until I saw that tag in the log, and realized that it corresponded to my Frontier lineup.I'll try to add the lineup description in the future. Quote:Also I notice that there are four lineups presented by NextPVR in the dialog, although Schedules Direct showed only one - ah, but when I hit "Report Lineup Problem", it shows four. So they're confused, I have four, and that may also be the reason why "Add" didn't work, because only four are permitted by SD. I don't see any way to delete one from either interface, so I'm not sure what the recovery method is if you already have four so you can't add another.Schedules Direct actually keep two lists of lineups per user. Unfortunately they only show you the old legacy SD-DD lineup list on their web page, not the lineup list used by their preferred json listing API. ie, that list you showed earlier... https://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.ph...post540141 ...is their old legacy api. I'm pretty sure the reason they have this old one on the web pages is because the old utilities that use this can not maintain their own lineups. Quote:I think this points to a bug in NextPVR, presenting the tag in the dialog instead of the actual name of the lineup.It's not really a bug, but it'd definitely be better to show the lineup name, rather than just it's identifier.
2019-09-18, 06:21 PM
If you all ready setup Schedules Direct once before then the line up doesn't need be re-adding just fill out under Guide below "If you have a Schedules Direct account, please enter your login details here." type in your username and password then hit enter it may take few min but epg sources show up on it own.
2019-09-19, 01:08 AM
Thank you for the explanation... does make sense, although not at all obvious without explanation.
Schedules Direct does seem to show the lineup list that NextPVR uses, on the "Report Lineup Problem" screen. This might help with diagnosis. What happens when you already have four, and you need to add a different one? Will NextPVR delete one of the old ones?
2019-09-19, 01:22 AM
TheFritz Wrote:What happens when you already have four, and you need to add a different one? Will NextPVR delete one of the old ones?You'll probably get an error back from SD if you try to add more lineups than it'll let you have. It'd be up to you to manually remove any you no longer need. TheFritz Wrote:Thank you for the explanation... does make sense, although not at all obvious without explanation.Yes see below just del and add the new one or if old one from before json then SD own web site I think SD only allow up to 4 lineup in all if I recall right [ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]
2019-09-19, 07:22 AM
So, I tried to see if I could delete lineups from NextPVR, but I was getting nothing from SD, no matter what I did. Checked the logs, it said I was nixed for 15 minutes because of too many bad logins.
After I waited 15 minutes, tried again. Very carefully put my credentials in the boxes, waited for the minute to change and then tried to Add SD Channel Lineup (even though I know that wouldn't work, was just a way to ping SD). Pressed Search, nothing happened. Checked the log for that minute. It says that the login failed, and that the login passed was "admin", which is not what I put in for credentials. Since there's no "Enter" button or anything for the credentials box, it's not clear how to get them to "take", or what actions access the values in these fields, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. But I definitely had put my credentials in the fields before attempting to Add SD Channel Lineup, yet it seems to have sent "admin" credentials (the the credentials I used to log into NextPVR, as I haven't changed them). |
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