Sat>IP, NextPVR Server, Exip 418, Scan does not find channels

[RudiLeitner]

Good Morning,

so...I have NextPVR server running as backend for KODI, newest version...it's 5.1.1 i think.

My sat>ip setup is
Selfsat dish => Kathrein Exip 418 => {LAN/Switch/Router} => Mini PC  (server & client) => TV
( where Router is a Speedport hybrid router from German Telekom and Switch is a TPLink)

Works great. As long as I run NextPVR with using a .m3u file.  Kodi (with NextPVR plugin) will see all the channels, everything fine.
I just want to get away from that external XMLTV EPG.   As far as I understand, using a .m3u file to address channels on the Exip moves us towards "IPTV" and there is no over the air EPG for IPTV.    (don't know if this is correct,  it's what I understand)

So I though I try to scan the Exip tuner devices that show up in NextPVR instead of using a .m3u file.  Unfortunately the scan doesn't find ANY channels on the exip.
I'll include a log to this post.   Seems like the scan for each frequency runs into an error (mostly something with non-connected sockets).

Would be great if somebody of you could have a look on this.

I would even fill services manually  (a few, just to test if it'll work and if over-the-air EPG does it's job).   I mean, I know all the frqs, transponders, service names and whatever...  I just don't know how ;-)

Forgot to mention:    tried this with the most current NextPVR version and with 5.0.6.    Tried it also with KODI switched off  (Mini-PC acting as server only). Restartet Exip a dozends of times, Restartet the PC a dozends of times and .....   disconnected the entire setup from power, restarted everything.   No change in behaviour. 

Thanks in advance
Cheers
Rudi

[mvallevand]

The attachments must be zip files or the forum ignores the upload. Could you also include the zipped m3u file?

Martin

[RudiLeitner]

The attachments must be zip files or the forum ignores the upload.  Could you also include the zipped m3u file?

Martin

Hi,

here you go....   2 zips should be attached now.

Just to be clear:     the .m3u  variant  (with attached kathrein.m3u) is the one that actually works  with  NextPVR<->Exip418.    I've just mentioned this variant to make clear that NextPVR somehow finds and accesses the Exip.    

Cheers
Rudi

[mvallevand]

I asked to see if it would help sub compare the command strings eg. for Das Erste HD2

m3u http src=1&freq=11494&pol=h&ro=0.35&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&plts=on&sr=22000&fec=23&pids=0,17,18,5100,5101,5102,5104
scan rtsp src=1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&fec=23&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&pids=0,16,17,18

Does your SAT>IP box has a setting that requires force pilot on?

It also helped me find this resource for rtsp which seems to match your post https://www.satip.info/resources/channel-lists/

Martin

[RudiLeitner]

I asked to see if it would help sub compare the command strings eg. for Das Erste HD2

m3u http src=1&freq=11494&pol=h&ro=0.35&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&plts=on&sr=22000&fec=23&pids=0,17,18,5100,5101,5102,5104
scan rtsp src=1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&fec=23&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&pids=0,16,17,18

Does your SAT>IP box has a setting that requires force pilot on?

It also helped me find this resource for rtsp which seems to match your post https://www.satip.info/resources/channel-lists/

Martin

Hello Martin.

No, the exip does not have such a setting,  had a look into its admin UI ....but  no, nothing like that.

I am not really familiar with this technology...   tried that rtsp links with browsers,  vlc and also adding a rtsp entry to my kathrein.m3u ... nothing.    In fact when i try to import a m3u containing such a rtsp entry into NextPVR,  that entry doesn't even appear in the import list.  I guess the import is simply not made for this, right ?

However.... this is something I've also tried in the past days...  tvheadend is able to do channel scans on the Exip .... unreliable, but it somehow works with that device.  No entires in the logs that would show something helpful :-(

Don't know....   is ithis issue still under investigation on your side ?   Can I do or investigate something to support you ?

Thanks a lot
Rudi

[mvallevand]

Only the developer sub can help, I wouldn't expect the NextPVR rtsp url to work better with another app.

Since you have TVH that implies you have a linux setup can you run a terminal session on it? if so could you try these commands. The default Windows curl doesn't support rtsp.

Original NextPVR
curl -v rtsp://192.168.2.121:554/?src=1&freq=11494&sr=22000&pol=h&fec=23&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&pids=0,16,17,18

Your m3u
curl -v http://192.168.2.121/?src=1&freq=11494&p...,5102,5104

Your m3u as rtsp
curl -v rtsp://192.168.2.121/?src=1&freq=11494&pol=h&ro=0.35&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&plts=on&sr=22000&fec=23&pids=0,17,18,5100,5101,5102,5104

Your m3u as rtsp with NextPVR PIDS

curl -v rtsp://192.168.2.121/?src=1&freq=11494&pol=h&ro=0.35&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&plts=on&sr=22000&fec=23&pids=0,16,17,18

Martin

[RudiLeitner]

So....yes and no, I ran tvheadend on WSL (Debian) on a Windows computer. But this should not stop me from running curl, i guess...

I'll post results tomorrow...

Rudi

[mvallevand]

OK thanks. You can also download and install official curl for Windows https://curl.se/download.html#Win64 if it is easier. The installed Window version is incomplete.

Martin

[RudiLeitner]

OK thanks. You can also download and install official curl for Windows  https://curl.se/download.html#Win64 if it is easier.  The installed Window version is incomplete.

Martin

Good morning :-)
so, here are the results  (see attached curl.zip)


It contains 2 sections for Linux and 1 for windows.
1-Linux,  statements as you've posted
2-Linux,  statements as you've posted, but URLs in quotes
  (I read somewhere that curl expects URLs in quotes in order to process URL parameters correctly)
3-Windows    (yes,  no RTSP supported)

Anythin else….if I can help, just drop me a line.

Thanks again
Rudi

[mvallevand]

Sorry about the quotes I didn't think they would be needed on linux, Seems like standard rtsp commands are available. I noticed this post https://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.ph...#pid554448 and there appears to be verbose messages with SAT>IP. Could you hold the control key on the Settings screen and click "Enable Verbose" and try a SAT>IP scan again and send the logs please

Martin